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WHY the majority doesn't vote for CSM

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Ai Shun
#21 - 2012-01-27 05:31:14 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Vote for me for CSM. I can booty-kiss and sling BS with the best of them!


You just want to go to Iceland Lol
EnslaverOfMinmatar
You gonna get aped
#22 - 2012-01-27 06:16:12 UTC
I voted 'none' or something like that last time.

Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07
None ofthe Above
#23 - 2012-01-27 06:21:45 UTC
EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:
I voted 'none' or something like that last time.


Thank you for the vote. You can vote for me again this year.

The only end-game content in EVE Online is the crap that makes you rage quit.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-01-27 06:51:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
None ofthe Above wrote:
EnslaverOfMinmatar wrote:
I voted 'none' or something like that last time.


Thank you for the vote. You can vote for me again this year.


Do you have billions of isk you need to get rid of to inherit a relatives fortune but can't speak about it, if so I'd gladly offer my services at an aggreeable rate? Blink

and for those who dont know the reference and think I've lost it : Vote, None of the Above - Brewsters Millions

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It's just criminal - Smuggling
Vyl Vit
#25 - 2012-01-27 07:29:36 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Vote for me for CSM. I can booty-kiss and sling BS with the best of them!


You just want to go to Iceland Lol

I've never met a real Viking!

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#26 - 2012-01-27 07:48:31 UTC
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#27 - 2012-01-27 07:49:17 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
What each CSM member stands for should be more apparent to voters.
Under each candidate in the voting process, there should be a very little phrase which gives a rough indication of what the CSM member represents.
For example:
'Wants more highsec iteration'
or
'Death2allsupercaps'
or
'Wants WiS'
or
'Mining/Industry development'
etc.


That exists. It's called the candidate's statement. If someone CBA to read a ~200wds on each candidate, Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Democracy's hard, and if they can't read 200wds to figure out who to vote for, they deserve to get screwed, and I hope they don't bother to vote.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#28 - 2012-01-27 07:50:17 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.


Hey, I know what the majority want. They want to not be bothered by some popup trying to get them to vote. They told me so last election.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Vyl Vit
#29 - 2012-01-27 07:53:47 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#30 - 2012-01-27 07:58:25 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.


Baby Spank's probably more well known than that Vyl Vit guy. Sounds like he can communicate just fine.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-01-27 07:59:55 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.


Unfortunatley some people consistently can only manage a limited tourettes style insult when trying to debate something. Please dont hate on them for being so challenged. I think it helps in their therapy to at least get things in the open how they feel even if they havent appropriately engaged brain to the subject.

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#32 - 2012-01-27 08:03:12 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.


Unfortunatley some people consistently can only manage a limited tourettes style insult when trying to debate something. Please dont hate on them for being so challenged. I think it helps in their therapy to at least get things in the open how they feel even if they havent appropriately engaged brain to the subject.


POOP!

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-01-27 08:03:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
RubyPorto wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.


Unfortunatley some people consistently can only manage a limited tourettes style insult when trying to debate something. Please dont hate on them for being so challenged. I think it helps in their therapy to at least get things in the open how they feel even if they havent appropriately engaged brain to the subject.


POOP!


Yes you do consistently come out with a lot of it, especially the Bull vareity.

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#34 - 2012-01-27 08:14:31 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Vyl Vit wrote:
Lady Spank wrote:
Another dumbass thinking he knows what the majority want.

You know, it's not so hard to do if you communicate with people, a skill you've yet to learn. So, continue to show your hiney. You do it so well.


Unfortunatley some people consistently can only manage a limited tourettes style insult when trying to debate something. Please dont hate on them for being so challenged. I think it helps in their therapy to at least get things in the open how they feel even if they havent appropriately engaged brain to the subject.


POOP!


Yes you do consistently come out with a lot of it, especially the Bull vareity.


Since when do I run my mouth with bullshit?* Also, BullPoop? What are we, 5?



*Ok, I can think of a handful of rants I'm not particularly happy with, and times when I got schooled because of it, but for the most part, the fact that my argumentative tone tends to be sarcastic and mocking doesn't change the fact that I try to include reasoned points. Hell, even my "POOP!" comment was intended to point out that since we don't seem to see random profanity, it's likely nobody has typer's Tourettes.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
pussnheels
Viziam
#35 - 2012-01-27 08:18:19 UTC
It would be so much easier for CCP just to pick 6 Goons and /or their pets at random and 2 very unlucky other players completely random

Even less than 15 % will vote this time , making voting manipulation so much more obvious

So people DO NOT VOTE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ELECTED DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE GAME

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#36 - 2012-01-27 08:23:12 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
It would be so much easier for CCP just to pick 6 Goons and /or their pets at random and 2 very unlucky other players completely random

Even less than 15 % will vote this time , making voting manipulation so much more obvious

So people DO NOT VOTE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ELECTED DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE GAME


Hi Self-Fulfilling prophecies, how's things over with the Greeks?

Seriously;
1) Show evidence to back your claims

2) Show me a better system, and show evidence to back that system up.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#37 - 2012-01-27 08:23:56 UTC
I only vote so I can moan with a clear conscience, you should be a part of the process if your going to comment on the process.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#38 - 2012-01-27 08:25:18 UTC
I dont vote because I dont know any of these guys most of the time.

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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#39 - 2012-01-27 08:27:35 UTC
Effort where effort is due. This thread is worthless garbage.

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Jenny Cameron
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-01-27 08:33:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenny Cameron
Vyl Vit wrote:
The majority of players are convinced CCP will do nothing to address anything they consider in need of attention.

Wrong
Mr Epeen wrote:
The majority don't vote because they think the game is just fine the way it is

Wrong
DarkAegix wrote:
What each CSM member stands for should be more apparent to voters.
Under each candidate in the voting process, there should be a very little phrase which gives a rough indication of what the CSM member represents.
For example:
'Wants more highsec iteration' or
'Death2allsupercaps' or
'Wants WiS' or
'Mining/Industry development' etc.

I think that's more like it.

Most people have no idea what they are voting for and don't bother to look it up. How can you possibly know who's the best option out of 60 candidates?? For most players it's one big blur.
Even if you're one of the few that actually finds and uses the matching tool (thanks to whoever made it) your most fitting candidate may still not get elected and you still may only have a 60% match.

It's also very casual player unfriendly. Some organized big alliances may appoint a few candidates that everyone in it has to vote for. A lot of votes of less hardcore players, if they vote at all, are spread across the board and are lost. So the outcome of the election is very much flawed and by no means representative of what your actual playerbase really wants.
Being organized has a far greater impact than having good ideas.

Why doesn't CCP let people vote for ideas instead of people? Why no polls? That way they know what their player base wants, no votes are lost and more people may vote, simply because it's far more straightforward than voting for people.
Voting for people is a very indirect way to see what your players want.