EVE General Discussion

Actually, this is something I'd quite like some clarification on.

I understand that I could try attacking the ganker, as he'd be red, but is it possible to try repping the victim without being in fleet, or not being in the same corp, without getting a GCC? (even if I aggressed the ganker?)

Or does Concord just not understand your intent?

And from the other point of view, if someone was repping the ganker, they'd get warned about GCC now, right, and Concord takes them out too (or is that just aggression?)

As soon as the gankers activate an offensive module, you can fire on them at will. CONCORD will be shooting them when they arrive, but you will be fine, as you shot someone with GCC (which means they're KOS).

Repping someone only makes you a legal target if the rep target is legal for someone to shoot (Suicide Gank target is not a legal target for the attackers). Repping someone (so long as they're not GCC or [I believe, not quite sure] Outlaw) will never get you CONCORDed.

If you're repping someone before they go GCC, the repper will quit it's cycle and ask if you want to keep repping (showing the CONCORD warning)

Anytime. Hisec Aggression and CONCORD mechanics are a little opaque.

Though there is one constant. You will *ALWAYS* get a CONCORD warning before taking an action that can result in being CONCORDED (there was a great story about getting some guy to sit at a safespot and run smartbombs, then warping Dozens of pods in on him)

Not too bad of an idea.

Have Concord also confiscate the attackers surviving cargo to help fund the Policeman's Ball and also impound the victims surviving cargo which is returned to the victim at the nearest Concord/DED station.

Now that would solve the problem.

It took eight posts to point out what should have been said in the very first answer…

I wonder how many complaints about ganking would disappear if more people took the time to educate themselves about the options already available to them.
Solve what problem?
And no, negative wallets is not a good solution for anything.

Well, Concord is against pod killing. However, if the attackers were to do a pod kill, then their pods become eligible.

Its none of my business as I am not a suicide ganker and I do not haul as a business, but an obvious "solution" (if there is need for one) to making the whole ganking more in line with the rest of eve came to mind:

The "problem" seems to be that it is to easy for the suicide gankers to make a calculable profit. Of course the loot can be destroyed but that is a 50-50 deal and easily to account for. Why not add a chameleon device that can be fitted to your ship. It lets you fake the fitting you have. You can pick what you want the ship scanner to show so that you can try and fool them into using the wrong ammo, or forcing them to use double the amount of ships normally necessary to gank you just to get a sure kill!

The ship scanner should see the chameleon device and have a small chance, say in the range of 5% to scan the right modules you have fitted. A clever ganker will re-scan the ship over and over again, eventually getting a hint of what the real fitting is.

The drawback for the hauler is of course that he/she needs to give up one slot for fitting the device to begin with.

For a freighter this is obviously not an option, but I am personally of the opinion that if you can gank a freighter and make a profit, you deserved it!

Ok, so all my haulers are fit with Estamel's gear (and if I want to actually travel with one Estamel's inuln, I'll pop it in a t1 indy's mid slot).

tl;dr No.

That is soooo cruel man.

Picture it - Mittens in a Mackinaw. Helicity in Hulk. CCP in Retrievers.

Perish the thought.

Remove the standings tools. Then just follow Rule

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Harden up a little.