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Boycott the CSM selection process and vote
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met worst
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-26 22:57:25 UTC
If you truly think as I do that the CSM selection system is flawed, pointless and no more than a 0.0 boys club, don't stand, don't select and don't vote.

If CCP can see that the CSM is wasted effort for THE MAJORITY (as it always has been), emphasise the irrelevance by treating it like the festering sore it has become.

Force the issue to a fairer method of representation. Better to have no system than a bad system.

Show your disgust. DO NOTHING.
Adunh Slavy
#2 - 2012-01-26 22:58:12 UTC
Can we write in Ron Paul?

IBTL

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
Zleon Leigh
#3 - 2012-01-26 23:03:45 UTC
met worst wrote:
If you truly think as I do that the CSM selection system is flawed, pointless and no more than a 0.0 boys club, don't stand, don't select and don't vote.

If CCP can see that the CSM is wasted effort for THE MAJORITY (as it always has been), emphasise the irrelevance by treating it like the festering sore it has become.

Force the issue to a fairer method of representation. Better to have no system than a bad system.

Show your disgust. DO NOTHING.




Would be better to petition CCP to add "None of the Above" and "Drop CSM" to the ballot in order to really determine what the customers think. But I don't have a lot of confidence in CCP's marketing group given the wording of the customer survey's and leaked info about their "results"

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met worst
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-01-26 23:03:55 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Can we write in Ron Paul?

IBTL

/me googles Ron Paul and says...

"Only an American would think the rest of the world cares about American politics."

And wtf should thread be locked? You disagree or sumtin?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#5 - 2012-01-26 23:04:30 UTC
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Can we write in Ron Paul?

IBTL



RON PAUL!!!

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#6 - 2012-01-26 23:05:24 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Adunh Slavy wrote:
Can we write in Ron Paul?

IBTL



RON PAUL!!!

not empty voting
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#7 - 2012-01-26 23:06:57 UTC
Or you could pick candidates that aren't null seccer good ole boys
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#8 - 2012-01-26 23:08:01 UTC
We've had this same discussion since the vote for CSM 1.

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-01-26 23:09:34 UTC
Vote for Newt Gingrich and he promises to give us the moon! Big smile

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/newt-gingrich-promises-build-moon-colony-2020-u-211103078.html

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#10 - 2012-01-26 23:10:50 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Vote for Newt Gingrich and he promises to give us the moon! Big smile

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/newt-gingrich-promises-build-moon-colony-2020-u-211103078.html


what he's not telling you is "Moon colony" is the name of his next book.....
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#11 - 2012-01-26 23:13:19 UTC
Stupid question but... if we don't vote, and the null fiolks vote who they want in, don't we just lose?


No message, we just suffer for stupidity and lack of organization.
met worst
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-01-26 23:13:45 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Vote for Newt Gingrich and he promises to give us the moon! Big smile

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/newt-gingrich-promises-build-moon-colony-2020-u-211103078.html

The other 6.8 billion people in the world don't agree

Or care.

Bit like CSM politics really.

But let's call it a democracy all the same shall we?
Makenshi Drakonnen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-26 23:14:29 UTC
Zleon Leigh wrote:

Would be better to petition CCP to add "None of the Above" and "Drop CSM" to the ballot in order to really determine what the customers think. But I don't have a lot of confidence in CCP's marketing group given the wording of the customer survey's and leaked info about their "results"


or you could just abstain.
Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-01-26 23:19:26 UTC
Not voting is not a statement.
Voting for donald duck is.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-01-26 23:20:54 UTC
CCP should start locking these terrible anti-CSM threads on the grounds that it's political discussion.

After all, the amount of idiocy here is pretty much similar to the amount of idiocy which takes place in real life political discussions, wouldn't you say?
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#16 - 2012-01-26 23:21:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
met worst wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Vote for Newt Gingrich and he promises to give us the moon! Big smile

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/newt-gingrich-promises-build-moon-colony-2020-u-211103078.html

The other 6.8 billion people in the world don't agree

Or care.

Bit like CSM politics really.

But let's call it a democracy all the same shall we?


the other 6.8 billion don't live in America and their opinions about American politics mean nothing to the voting process

so can we assume you are basing your rants on what people playing wow think of the CSM?
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#17 - 2012-01-26 23:21:44 UTC
All not voting will say to CCP is we don't care... like the majority of the playerbase every single year since the CSM was started. Its still here.

Not voting will not change the CSM. If anything, it will give us the exact same thing we have now. Is that what you want op?
met worst
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-01-26 23:22:22 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Stupid question but... if we don't vote, and the null fiolks vote who they want in, don't we just lose?

No message, we just suffer for stupidity and lack of organization.

An even greater lack of interest (than previously) let's CCP become aware (if they aren't already) that the CSM does NOT neccessarily represent the majority and reduces the CSM's belief it is a "representative entity".

This could force a better and fairer system. CCP is quite aware that there are issues. Maybe they need to understand how bad it really is.

Keep in mind this is my view and just like any political agenda, my stance is for doing nothing to prove the point.

Not simply doing something within a flawed system, calling it a democracy and be damned the consequences.
Rene Fullchest
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-01-26 23:22:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Rene Fullchest
There is a HUGE problem with boycotts, or, more specifically, those that think that any boycott can ever actually achieve what they want it to.

The very fact that one thinks that they need a forum post to attempt to garner more who think thusly is evidence that a boycott can never work.

I don't care where you are from, but a simple study of general political science will tell you that calls for a boycott only work against your own self interests.

The ONLY way to effect change is to participate.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#20 - 2012-01-26 23:24:05 UTC
Hahaha, yes don't vote. That will work well for you.
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