Market Discussions

Actually its a pretty decent example. Not the best as demand for oil is usually a steady one, but still the effect is similar.

EvE real life events for example increase the demand to plex, so the cost goes up.
There is also a time of the year where players play less (usually summer), so less people play, less plex demand, cost goes down.
Also a "global event" like a new expansion, a very costly large scale war, a "limited time" plex offer by CCP, all of those influence the cost of plex.

This is all the same as global politics and world events affect petrol cost.

Springboard for more awful analogies.

Cornering the plex market is more than just buying everything up.
The higher plex prices go, the less people are able to buy them, and the more people are inticed to buy a plex and sell it on the market.

So comitting to a point where you buy all the plexes ingame(trillions of isk?) and keep absorbing all the new incoming plexes can be a problem.
Especially as the mob knows that every plex they'll put on the market will be bought, they'll create an artificial demand so high, and they will not be able to forsee for how long.

Fact is no one really knows what will happen if plex prices rise and break a certain threshold.

Maybe mass loss of subscribers, Maybe mass added paying subscribers.
If the prices rise due to artificial demand and "all" the plex buyers leave the game(for a month, or two?), the would-be market manipulator will get stuck with alot of over-priced plex that he can't unload.

but then again, no one really knows how the market will act.
you should get the same answer by asking what would happen if you removed the plex from the game

isk / hr ( income) *( hr played - hrs not grinding isk) vs 15 dollars

people make insane isks these days, they buy multiple t3s and faction bses every few days/ week

-> more and more people have an overflow of isk and the only thing every player/ every account needs is game time...

so you have 2 bil extra isk, why would you NOT buy plex??
-> demand going up because we can all afford it.

-> supply goes down because everyone and their alts make tons of iskies in no time, with little risk, no need to spend an extra 15 dollars for some extra iskies in game, just spend a day of grinding and you're good to go for the week
( most corporations do this in group now aswell, and make it a corp event)


anyway, we ALL know what makes easy isk these days and where its happening ;)
NOW, some people don't want to grind this isk and they will keep selling plexes but most of us are carebears, and even the pro-vet-peeveepee'ers have highsec alts for (easy) income (like myself ;D lol)

anyway, back to my sansha friends
Baai

Kobalos what kind of absolute **** head would even begin writing a post like that?
Did you just think hmmm I'm going to get a boner trying to kick a man for not earning enough to pay for his hobby?

If you had bothered to read the thread you would have noticed perhaps that I have mentioned I'm comfortable irl and in game, I'm not Rockefeller but job car, house,garage hotwater, colour tv and matching his and hers Shellsuits all sorted.

There are alot of people whom are struggleing in real life though and that is never ever something that should be used as a weapon shame on you.

lmao, what former soviet satellite state do you live in where that's worth mentioning?

I think this thread can die now, the trolls are starting to breed.

Please lock

I have an idea. Give us PLEX with an expiration Date, to permanently Devastate any hopes of manipulation in the public's Eyes.

Hows that for a reply to a forum post meant to rally merchants into another round of inflation?

Would be nice to hear if CCP has any interest on such a simple, PROFITABLE, and extremely effective way to calm every one down.
This would also pretty much handycap RMT to any level CCP desires.

First of all this might start a very strange secondary market of buying and selling accounts with years of playtime on them, meaning more scams, more bans, more whining, and more money to black market elements.

Also, the market system doesn't support buying/selling of items with a timer on them.

In addition, the PLEX redeem/reverse redeem system would need to be modified.

Not to mention the fact that you could recycle the buddy reward program to keep PLEX in the system indefinitely.

I'd also like to add that this would basically shut down the trading market for one of the biggest items in the game. Trading is one of the main gameplay pillars of Eve, I don't know if I agree with taking gameplay away from traders when trading gets almost no direct love with expansions to begin with.

The main reason I'm against this is because I think to real life, about how Skype credits expire, and gift cards become void after a certain date. In the end it just makes the company richer at the expense of pissing the consumer off.

One who cuts through the BS and gets to the point of the argument. I have read practically this entire thread, twice over. There have been copious replies to both your first post and to your inadequate defenses thereof. Therefore, I felt like calling a spade a spade.

Fact 1 - People who purchase PLEXs with RL currency, presumably can afford to do so.

Fact 2 - People who purchase PLEXs with ISK, also presumably can afford to do so.

Fact 3 - That there is a natural equilibrium between the two - which could possibly be manipulated or not - has been pointed out and is wholly beside the point.

Fact 4 - You either fail to see the point, refuse to see the point, or see the point and would just like to beat a dead horse to death again. (See what I did there?)

Fact 5 - EVE is in fact a game - a recreational hobby if you will - and as such, it is a WANT not a NEED. As such, my point stands. The ability to recreate, presupposes that NEEDS are met - ordinarily speaking.

This is not a weapon. This is simple logic, common or not-so-common sense, and a good bit of good advise - whether it was asked for or not. It is a rule I have had to follow myself, as need has dictated. You opted to put your opinions in the public forum. Toughen up or don't post.

- Kobalos