Jita Park Speakers Corner

So, if I'm fighting 1 vs 1 in a belt in lowsec, and a rat takes a single shot at me, when I lose that rat will appear on the killmail. This makes sense; any element which modified the combat should be noted. Otherwise killmails are simply junk, not worth the electrons they're composed of.

But if my opponent is fleeted with a boosting alt, and I lose, no mention of this will be on the killmail. Did I pilot badly? Or did he have a booster alt? I'll never know.

This is a form of Pay to Win. In the above scenario, my opponent paid CCP for another account to give him significant advantages to the battle, but this fact was kept secret... no mention of this will be made in the killmail. He will appear 'solo'.

CCP, anything which affected the battle should appear on the killmail. I'm asking for the booster alt to appear on the killmail.

Solo means a single account.

I'm surprised. Given your proposals in the past, I'd have thought you would leap at the chance for more accurate killmails.

Do you believe it is good for this game to suggest each solo fighter (even the new ones) maintain a boosting alt to remain competitive? Do you believe killmails should hide this information?

Do you use a booster alt?


I'm not trolling you. I'm seriously interested in your opinion on this.

while good in spirit this too would require a rewrite of crimewatch. What your suggesting would mean if i was fleeted with someone in high sec (i am getting boosts from them, doesn't even have to be command links) that if I go GCC on someone that concord will not only kill me but everyone boosting me as well.

Its not a bad idea, but its never going to happen until the agression code gets rewritten.

And btw, if you can't tell that someone is using a booster alt your doing it wrong. Killboards/killmails are a tool for better understanding and will never be able to give you the complete picture.

I'd like to clarify a bit: Since the Summer of Rage, I collapsed my two mains onto a single account. Thus, while I fly solo with a single account, I could very easily pay the fee, split the characters off, and have my own boosting alt. She's highly skilled at that stuff, as I was encouraged to train it during my stay with both E-UNI and in nullsec. I'm not crying that it's unfair to me.

So let's say I decided to split them off and have a booster alt. The next time I kill a Rifter... did it count? Did I fly better? Or did he not have the prerequisite boosting alt? Boosting is a significant advantage on the frigate level, especially 1 vs 1. And there's a great deal of e-honor stuff mixed into the solo T1 frig part of the game. If I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that everyone in the game was using a booster alt... then fine. I'd use one.

But there are new players who I encourage to go out in T1 frigs and find fights. Is the entry level for solo PvP now AF's and a booster alt?

While boosting alts exist, and neither show up on killmails nor can be traced back to their owners, a new dynamic occurs: the pressure to remain competitive. Which means more accounts for CCP. If that's not by design, what a happy coincidence for CCP, eh?


@Karl: If you've some way of determining whether you opponent is employing a boosting alt, would you please share it? If I'm in a quiet system, and it's just me and a Rifter that comes in, yeah... pretty sure he's not boosted. But in a system like Amamake? Or even Siseide, which carries heavy traffic and the system is large enough that not everything is on scan, how would I know? Added to this, as a T1 frig flyer, I cannot stick to the empty, backwater systems... I'll never find a fight. Given these circumstances, how can I identify who is boosting?

@Red: I agree it might be difficult, but feel it is important.

+1 to this thread and +1 to this post, too.

I would be fine with that, in fact I would encourage it: It would also mean that the "not really solo" PvP guys would be easily recognizable as such.

No I've changed my mind: I want my fleet booster alt to get her rightful due. Those Claymores aren't cheap, you know, so hand over the KMs!

Boosting Alts needs be dealt with in more meaningful ways, then the whole killmail issue would largely be a mute point.

Even a subtle change like making Gang links and ECCM incompatible on the same ship, would be a very good start. On grid boosting only is another frequently suggested change.

Wow Malcanis, I had no idea you were so bad at EVE!

Devs have said they'd like it but it's never made it in. I suspect you'll find its never been done cause their code can't deal with it.