Jita Park Speakers Corner

You claim this thread is full of lies. How can that not imply my future political doom, unless you believe that voters like candidates that lie, which would go a long way to explain you.

I stand by everything I've posted. You are the alt that only revealed it when it suited your deceit.

I've got no issue with this or any other thread I've posted in.

So just to be clear to other folks that intend to post here.

I will only respond going forward to the following folks.

- Hans if he wants to rant crazy talk more here after he probalbly won a spot in the top 7 seats, I mean I can't get enough of that.

- Goon trolls, you've all won my heart!

- New folks!.

- Sullen birds because I like a certain owl and I hope we someday get to a better place!

- Miners! You are the shiniest pilots in all of Eve!

- Supporters! I love you all!

- Egg laying mammals! - I remain dedicated to the domestication of the Platypus!

- Llamas!

If you aren't in the above list I likely won't respond.

Issler

Oh by the way Issler, if you weren't aware, a "Good luck!" =/= an apology. I think Hans is just annoyed that you won't apologize, not that you misconstrued what he stood for and denigrated his experience (although I believe you did this out of ignorance and not maliciously), not that you posted personal communications (not illegal, but certainly not classy), and not that you insist on questioning his mental state. He's requested an apology and you just side-step it saying, "Good luck Hans, I think you have a chance at CSM7!" then in the next line saying "Hans is a nutter, he is the bad guy here." Repeatedly.

Sorry that my interpretation doesn't align with yours. But look at it from my perspective. Before the election some stranger I've never heard of contacts me directly saying he has the election all sewed up and there is no point in me, or many other candidates running. He sends me a link to an impressive document with many good ideas but nothing that address the whole reason I'm running and implies somehow he'd be better to represent my constituency. I'm polite in my response and go about my business. I see he seems to gaining traction in his efforts and I'm happy for him.

Then all of a sudden in my view he seems to be trying to make the case that from the beginning he has represented himself as a miner and has been seeking to represent the high sec miner. Seemed like some sort of reality distortion bubble and a clear last minute vote grab. I post a mail he sent to show that it isn't so clear what he thinks of the other candidates as a counter to show he isn't being honest in how he represents himself. He becomes obsessed with getting me to take down the mail because he fears it will damage his relationship with two likely members of the CSM 7 he claims as his "friends".

There was additional direct communications between the two of us where I offered to do what he asked me but before I could do what he asked he went on the attack.

You have to ask yourself how you can feel someone so thin skinned can actually work in a group like the CSM where passion on the part of the other members could easily be misconstrued as an attack.

Someone with Hans' temperament wouldn't last a day in the world I live in if he can fly off the handle and be so personally affected by something as simple as our exchanges. Not who I'd look for to represent me which is a sad thing for me to have to conclude because at the start of this election I was a fan of his and would be now if had just stayed out of my thread and started to make this personal.

His desire to continue our exchange after the voting closed made me question his ability to work with people he doesn't agree with, to be able to gain consensus with a diverse group and finally his ability to see the big picture. He had nothing to gain and everything in the future to lose. It wouldn't affect the election, but it made him look excitable and irrational and lost him any support from anyone that might support me.

So I'm happy with my response and sad for Hans (also no longer a fan of him in CSM 7).

Good luck was not an apology but I don't owe him one. If what I've posted can get him so wrapped around the axle what happens to him when the attacks really happen.

Issler

Like, a thousand times like.

It may be more difficult for somebody who is not part of a large organised null sec alliance to get voted into the CSM simply because they do not have a good starting base of votes, but it does not help when that person is somebody like you.

You can not expect to get elected by promising to fix everything when you clearly have little to no knowledge about the things you talk about, are unable to relate to the very demographic your trying to win votes from and are rude, abrasive and deceitful

Also to all those who call Issler Dainzer a carebear, please don't as I see that as an insult to those of us who do live in high sec.

I voted Issler over Hans because Issler remains calm when being baited (hence good in committee) whereas Hans rages like a ****.

In fact, he even persuaded several staunchly anti-Hans people to see the error of their ways and subsequently vote and endorse Hans (chief example being Corelin). But that is not relevant to this discussion.

What is relevant is that Issler may have outwardly maintained her same in-denial passive-aggressive persona, but she hasn't ADDRESSED questions/concerns that have been presented to her. She simply says "Goon alt, next!" if the question/concern is even vaguely anti-Issler's campaign.

vOv

Someone like Hans that after the polls closed continued to rant in my thread and refused to accept anything positive I said about him looked pretty unbalanced to me. I really don't see anymore how he could be effective working in a group where he will think disagreement is a form of personal attack.

As to the other charge I answered every legitimate question posed, I did not however address unanswerable questions to folks that clearly weren't reading my responses and only interested in some variation of personal attacks.

Again, huge thanks to my supporters! I will continue to try and drive mining improvements into Eve. To the folks still trolling in my thread, particularly the Blitzners, still trying to figure out what you hope to accomplish.

Issler

Issler is quite possibly the most epic unintentional troll I have ever witnessed. It's quite fascinating.