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Issler Dainze for CSM7! Hear the bears roar!

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#581 - 2012-03-11 15:04:15 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I am aware that you have allies and they are not from SA but goons are different due to the fact they are really not part of the EVE culture. I stated that I was concerned about Goons on the CSM as they are not part of the EVE community, and The Mittani backs me up


You might have missed the way that the "Goon Culture" has basically infected the rest of Eve at this stage - you can't throw a stone in this game without it hitting some guy calling another guy a Pubbie, or talking about a Failure Cascade or Internet Spaceships and how they are Serious Business.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#582 - 2012-03-11 18:56:15 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Mr Epeen Cool


Still signing your posts, still jealous of Mittens.


A vote for mittens is a vote for mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE.

To the top and confirming I will be shortly logging in acct five and six to cast my votes for EVE and not ego.

Mr Epeen Cool
Carl Thunderthise
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#583 - 2012-03-11 19:08:23 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:


Actually I would have gone for "And remember. A vote for Mittens is a vote for a community. A vote for Issler is a vote for the EVE community.


True!
My vote is placed. Go Issler!
Ka P'lah
Doomheim
#584 - 2012-03-11 22:28:47 UTC
Issler is running for a place on the CSM for the right reasons - the idea that all the diverse activities players do in EVE and all the areas of the game should be represented to CCP as they go forward developing this game we like. I don't see how that could be a bad thing at all. She may or may not agree with an idea, but at least she'll listen to it without contempt...
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#585 - 2012-03-11 23:20:34 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
A vote for mittens is a vote for mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE.

To the top and confirming I will be shortly logging in acct five and six to cast my votes for EVE and not ego.

Mr Epeen Cool


A vote for Issler is a vote for space barbie faggotry.

Using long words doesn't change the fact that she (he?) supports anti-eve crap. We need a strong csm who can keep ccp focused on eve, and not making another captains quarters to show off in ads.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#586 - 2012-03-12 00:09:13 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Mr Epeen Cool


Still signing your posts, still jealous of Mittens.


A vote for mittens is a vote for mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE.

To the top and confirming I will be shortly logging in acct five and six to cast my votes for EVE and not ego.

Mr Epeen Cool

thanks for wasting your votes on a pubbie with no chance whatsoever goonswarm appreciates you taking those votes out of the pool

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Ka P'lah
Doomheim
#587 - 2012-03-12 00:10:23 UTC
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:

A vote for Issler is a vote for space barbie faggotry.

Using long words doesn't change the fact that she (he?) supports anti-eve crap. We need a strong csm who can keep ccp focused on eve, and not making another captains quarters to show off in ads.


"Long words"?....sorry...
Issler is a she.
Sure don't have to look very hard to see the hate being thrown around. Please, keep it up, you are painting a clear picture. Lol
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#588 - 2012-03-12 00:18:46 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Mr Epeen Cool


Still signing your posts, still jealous of Mittens.


A vote for mittens is a vote for mittens. A vote for Issler is a vote for EVE.

To the top and confirming I will be shortly logging in acct five and six to cast my votes for EVE and not ego.

Mr Epeen Cool

thanks for wasting your votes on a pubbie with no chance whatsoever goonswarm appreciates you taking those votes out of the pool


No... thank you!

You and all the other little bees fearfully buzzing around this thread trying desperately to discredit the only balanced candidate. All you are really accomplishing is drawing more and more attention to her platform and showing mittens cowering behind his army of shitposting alts.

You're not doing yourselves any favors but keep it up because you are doing favors for others.

Mr Epeen Cool
Frying Doom
#589 - 2012-03-12 00:31:26 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I am aware that you have allies and they are not from SA but goons are different due to the fact they are really not part of the EVE culture. I stated that I was concerned about Goons on the CSM as they are not part of the EVE community, and The Mittani backs me up


You might have missed the way that the "Goon Culture" has basically infected the rest of Eve at this stage - you can't throw a stone in this game without it hitting some guy calling another guy a Pubbie, or talking about a Failure Cascade or Internet Spaceships and how they are Serious Business.



Yes a few minor quotes have made it out of Goon swarm. Yes Internet spaceships are serious business. Very Serious, which is a very good reason for Goons to be in the minority .

I suppose I would consider Goons a more reasonable idea, if you ever heard a reasonable percentage of Goonswarm disagreeing with Mittens rather than all of the members of the Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party, towing the party line.

Why is that comrade? Do you get shot for treason?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#590 - 2012-03-12 01:22:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Snow Axe
Frying Doom wrote:
I suppose I would consider Goons a more reasonable idea, if you ever heard a reasonable percentage of Goonswarm disagreeing with Mittens rather than all of the members of the Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party, towing the party line.

Why is that comrade? Do you get shot for treason?


This of course makes the ridiculous assumption that Mittens' ideas are 100% his own concoction and have nothing to do with elements of the game that the literal thousands of pilots that fly under his coalition banner encounter every day.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#591 - 2012-03-12 01:23:10 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party


You say that like it's a bad thing.
Frying Doom
#592 - 2012-03-12 01:32:50 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
I suppose I would consider Goons a more reasonable idea, if you ever heard a reasonable percentage of Goonswarm disagreeing with Mittens rather than all of the members of the Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party, towing the party line.

Why is that comrade? Do you get shot for treason?


This of course makes the ridiculous assumption that Mittens' ideas are 100% his own concoction and have nothing to do with elements of the game that the literal thousands of pilots that fly under his coalition banner encounter every day.


Yes I'm sure the other members of the politburo help on his ideas.

As one of the members of your collective describes here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=922618#post922618

If you don't tow the party line your banned from forums and left out in the cold to rot. Yes very democratic.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#593 - 2012-03-12 01:37:03 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I'm sure the other members of the politburo help on his ideas.

As one of the members of your collective describes here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=922618#post922618

If you don't tow the party line your banned from forums and left out in the cold to rot. Yes very democratic.


I should be upset that someone's pulling back the curtain on how we really do operate, but in all honesty, that guy's going to get disappeared, so I really just kind of feel sorry for his friends. Figures you'd use this to gloat, though. Have you no shame? He literally stakes his life to get the truth out, and do you offer help to those of us who are trapped? No, you gloat like the shameless self-absorbed publord scum that you are.

How do you even sleep at night?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Taiwanistan
#594 - 2012-03-12 01:55:52 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I'm sure the other members of the politburo help on his ideas.

As one of the members of your collective describes here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=922618#post922618

If you don't tow the party line your banned from forums and left out in the cold to rot. Yes very democratic.


I should be upset that someone's pulling back the curtain on how we really do operate, but in all honesty, that guy's going to get disappeared, so I really just kind of feel sorry for his friends. Figures you'd use this to gloat, though. Have you no shame? He literally stakes his life to get the truth out, and do you offer help to those of us who are trapped? No, you gloat like the shameless self-absorbed publord scum that you are.

How do you even sleep at night?

heh must have been a space barbie lovin deviant

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Frying Doom
#595 - 2012-03-12 02:22:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes I'm sure the other members of the politburo help on his ideas.

As one of the members of your collective describes here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=922618#post922618

If you don't tow the party line your banned from forums and left out in the cold to rot. Yes very democratic.


I should be upset that someone's pulling back the curtain on how we really do operate, but in all honesty, that guy's going to get disappeared, so I really just kind of feel sorry for his friends. Figures you'd use this to gloat, though. Have you no shame? He literally stakes his life to get the truth out, and do you offer help to those of us who are trapped? No, you gloat like the shameless self-absorbed publord scum that you are.

How do you even sleep at night?


Actually I feel a great sense of honor to know that people with Morals do exist in the Goonswarm.
Ok he wont be existing for long. But this is besides the point.

Due to his courage we now know that when The Mittani talks of a mandate from the people. He is full of it.
"Mandate (politics), the power granted by an electorate"
Its hardly granted by an electorate if you have forced them to vote in a specific way.

Frankly behavior like this is really beneath the CSM. I really does make the CSM into a joke. You expect some forms of devious behavior from CSM candidates (Like the email spam) but Extorting votes should really be against the rules of the CSM election it is vote fixing.

CCP describes the CSM as

"Community Elections for Player Representatives

A council of nine player Representatives will be democratically elected by EVE players. Five alternates will also be elected to provide absentee coverage for Representatives. The CSM will be headed by a Chairman and supported by a Vice- Chairman, Secretary, and Vice-Secretary. This group is responsible for managing the operations of the council. "

The Goons seem to have missed the Democratically elected part.

Democracy
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Democracy is an egalitarian form of government in which all the citizens of a nation together determine public policy, the laws and the actions of their state, requiring that all citizens (meeting certain qualifications) have an equal opportunity to express their opinion. In practise, "democracy" is the extent to which a given system approximates this ideal, and a given political system is referred to as "a democracy" if it allows a certain approximation to ideal democracy. Although no country has ever granted all its citizens (i.e. including minors) the vote, most countries today hold regular elections based on egalitarian principles, at least in theory.

Elements considered essential to democracy include freedom of political expression, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press, so that citizens are adequately informed and able to vote according to their own best interests as they see them."

Personally I believe The Mittani has failed to " adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow.". Vote rigging and Extortion are hardly examples to other players.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#596 - 2012-03-12 02:36:13 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Frankly behavior like this is really beneath the CSM. I really does make the CSM into a joke. You expect some forms of devious behavior from CSM candidates (Like the email spam) but Extorting votes should really be against the rules of the CSM election it is vote fixing.


You don't get this, do you? This goes so far beyond the CSM and extorting votes. Everything, EVERYTHING any of us do is solely for Mittani's benefit. Every anomaly, every asteroid mined (yes, he forces us to mine - I think it's just for his amusement), every last scrap of loot from whatever PVP success we fall backwards into - it ALL goes to him. Him personally, too, not the corp, or the alliance. The CSM is just another vanity project for him.

Life is hell in this alliance. We get nothing, are forced to fly ships we don't want to fly, forced to fight for regions and moons we see absolutely no benefit from, forced to rat, forced to mine. Some poor sacks are even forced to SCAM - can you imagine how degrading that is? None of us have a choice. Some of us yearn to be a part of something else, but there's fear - he has spies all over. Many, many people would sell out anyone for his favor. I shouldn't even be saying any of this, but I just don't care anymore. At this point, getting kicked and hunted until I have nothing left would be putting me out of my misery.

Please, help spread the word. There's probably no hope, but people need to learn ~the truth~ about him, and about us.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#597 - 2012-03-12 02:55:37 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
I suppose I would consider Goons a more reasonable idea, if you ever heard a reasonable percentage of Goonswarm disagreeing with Mittens rather than all of the members of the Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party, towing the party line.

Why is that comrade? Do you get shot for treason?


This of course makes the ridiculous assumption that Mittens' ideas are 100% his own concoction and have nothing to do with elements of the game that the literal thousands of pilots that fly under his coalition banner encounter every day.


Yes I'm sure the other members of the politburo help on his ideas.

As one of the members of your collective describes here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=922618#post922618

If you don't tow the party line your banned from forums and left out in the cold to rot. Yes very democratic.


Look at you falling for trolls.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Frying Doom
#598 - 2012-03-12 03:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Snow Axe wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
I suppose I would consider Goons a more reasonable idea, if you ever heard a reasonable percentage of Goonswarm disagreeing with Mittens rather than all of the members of the Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party, towing the party line.

Why is that comrade? Do you get shot for treason?


This of course makes the ridiculous assumption that Mittens' ideas are 100% his own concoction and have nothing to do with elements of the game that the literal thousands of pilots that fly under his coalition banner encounter every day.


Yes I'm sure the other members of the politburo help on his ideas.

As one of the members of your collective describes here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=922618#post922618

If you don't tow the party line your banned from forums and left out in the cold to rot. Yes very democratic.


Look at you falling for trolls.


Yes I do fall for trolls but this doesn't lessen the extortion and vote rigging apparently committed by The Mittani in this election. Personally I believe he should be removed from the Ballot for attempting to destroy a democratic process.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Taiwanistan
#599 - 2012-03-12 03:16:37 UTC
confirming the mittani is forcing me to vote for spaceships instead of pants and emoting

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#600 - 2012-03-12 03:17:02 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Yes Snow Axe is a troll but this doesn't lessen the extortion and vote rigging apparently committed by The Mittani in this election. Personally I believe he should be removed from the Ballot for attempting to destroy a democratic process.


Right, I'm the troll but that other guy who confirms all of your crazy publord conspiracy theories is 100% on the level. What color is the sky in your world?

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["