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Issler Dainze for CSM7! Hear the bears roar!

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#421 - 2012-03-04 18:25:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnny Marzetti
With WiS (and Walking in Ships While They're in Stations), would I be able to undock with someone else in my ship? Like, have passengers that aren't exotic dancers or homeless people? As in, actual players? This has interesting gameplay implications, since I could then in theory fly someone with -10 sec into hisec in any ship.
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#422 - 2012-03-04 18:50:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Dez Affinity
Issler Dainze wrote:
Dez Affinity wrote:
As CCP have chosen not to act on this obvious infringment of copyright. I will be contacting Honda Motor Company, Ltd. and see what they make of this misrepresentation of the Honda and Honda Accord brand. In particular it's connection to a Spaceship Political Candidate who is running under the banner of the Honda Accord brand.

Enjoy your lawsuit.


I grew up in the west and I used it in this context...

hon·da   [hon-duh]
noun
an eye at one end of a lariat through which the other end is passed to form a lasso, noose, etc.

Issler



I'm sorry this poor way of trying to lie about your clear copyright infringment of the Honda Motor Company, Ltds. brand and trademark is just not acceptable.

You really expect me to believe you came to using the name "Honda Accord" for an Industrial alliance who build (space) vehicles by chance of combining two words that have no meaning or connection unless applied in the same context as the Automobile manufacturer and one of their most successful car lines.

hon·da   [hon-duh]
noun
an eye at one end of a lariat through which the other end is passed to form a lasso, noose, etc.

ac·cord/əˈkôrd/
Verb:
Give or grant someone (power, status, or recognition): "the powers accorded to the head of state".

Makes perfect sense in that context. Try and wormtongue your way out of it but I'm sure the Judge will not be as sympathetic as CCP are.

Someone who is so willing to forfeit Copyright Law CANNOT BE TRUSTED to follow a non-disclosure agreement.
Refr King
Aclan Trade Federation
#423 - 2012-03-04 19:16:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Refr King
Agreed on your points Issler.

To the Above Comment

§106A. Rights of certain authors to attribution and integrity
Exceptions.

(1)
The modification of a work of visual art which is a result of the passage of time or the inherent nature of the materials is not a distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in subsection (a)(3)(A).
(2)
The modification of a work of visual art which is the result of conservation, or of the public presentation, including lighting and placement, of the work is not a destruction, distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in subsection (a)(3) unless the modification is caused by gross negligence.
(3)
The rights described in paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) shall not apply to any reproduction, depiction, portrayal, or other use of a work in, upon, or in any connection with any item described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of the definition of "work of visual art" in section 101 [17 USC 101], and any such reproduction, depiction, portrayal, or other use of a work is not a destruction, distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in paragraph (3) of subsection (a).
Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#424 - 2012-03-04 19:28:45 UTC
Refr King wrote:
Agreed on your points Issler.

To the Above Comment

§106A. Rights of certain authors to attribution and integrity
Exceptions.

(1)
The modification of a work of visual art which is a result of the passage of time or the inherent nature of the materials is not a distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in subsection (a)(3)(A).
(2)
The modification of a work of visual art which is the result of conservation, or of the public presentation, including lighting and placement, of the work is not a destruction, distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in subsection (a)(3) unless the modification is caused by gross negligence.
(3)
The rights described in paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) shall not apply to any reproduction, depiction, portrayal, or other use of a work in, upon, or in any connection with any item described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of the definition of "work of visual art" in section 101 [17 USC 101], and any such reproduction, depiction, portrayal, or other use of a work is not a destruction, distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in paragraph (3) of subsection (a).


Did you even read what you are quoting?
Refr King
Aclan Trade Federation
#425 - 2012-03-04 19:54:33 UTC
Dez Affinity wrote:
Refr King wrote:
Agreed on your points Issler.

To the Above Comment

§106A. Rights of certain authors to attribution and integrity
Exceptions.

(1)
The modification of a work of visual art which is a result of the passage of time or the inherent nature of the materials is not a distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in subsection (a)(3)(A).
(2)
The modification of a work of visual art which is the result of conservation, or of the public presentation, including lighting and placement, of the work is not a destruction, distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in subsection (a)(3) unless the modification is caused by gross negligence.
(3)
The rights described in paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (a) shall not apply to any reproduction, depiction, portrayal, or other use of a work in, upon, or in any connection with any item described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of the definition of "work of visual art" in section 101 [17 USC 101], and any such reproduction, depiction, portrayal, or other use of a work is not a destruction, distortion, mutilation, or other modification described in paragraph (3) of subsection (a).


Did you even read what you are quoting?


Yes and this falls under the parody exception so long as the Rights holder is not being harmed in anyway and there are no claims that they are representative of the products or services in question.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#426 - 2012-03-04 20:01:24 UTC
This exciting game of "Troll or Sperg?" has been brought to you by Honda. The excitement continues after these messages.
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#427 - 2012-03-04 22:06:17 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ka P'lah wrote:
Future of the game we like? Nooo, don't wanna talk about that! I wanna harp on someone's post signature format! ...I guess that sort of thing is easier...


The future of the game that you envision isn't worth discussing. Mining mini-games and space barbies? No thanks.



Well I guess if the Goons are getting as antsy as they are then it's a sign that Issler's support is snowballing. Smile

My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#428 - 2012-03-04 22:14:06 UTC
Minta Contha wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ka P'lah wrote:
Future of the game we like? Nooo, don't wanna talk about that! I wanna harp on someone's post signature format! ...I guess that sort of thing is easier...


The future of the game that you envision isn't worth discussing. Mining mini-games and space barbies? No thanks.



Well I guess if the Goons are getting as antsy as they are then it's a sign that Issler's support is snowballing. Smile


Her using a bunch of sock puppets is hardly proof of her support snowballing. In her defense, though, it's good that her alts are voting for her as it would be really embarrassing if they voted for a real candidate.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Rayke Galastacia
Mission Ready Mining
Fly Fearless
#429 - 2012-03-04 23:25:04 UTC
Issler Dainze for CSM 7!
She has to be the right candidate if the Goons can't stop talking crap about her!
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#430 - 2012-03-04 23:46:36 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Minta Contha wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ka P'lah wrote:
Future of the game we like? Nooo, don't wanna talk about that! I wanna harp on someone's post signature format! ...I guess that sort of thing is easier...


The future of the game that you envision isn't worth discussing. Mining mini-games and space barbies? No thanks.



Well I guess if the Goons are getting as antsy as they are then it's a sign that Issler's support is snowballing. Smile


Her using a bunch of sock puppets is hardly proof of her support snowballing. In her defense, though, it's good that her alts are voting for her as it would be really embarrassing if they voted for a real candidate.


Next time you see me in game, Harlot, we can have a voice chat to prove I'm no alt. That is if you actually ever play the game, rather than forcing us to look at your sandpaper face on the forum.

My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#431 - 2012-03-05 00:13:49 UTC
Rayke Galastacia wrote:
Relax Dez, I spoke with my physics professor, Professor Honda, when I saw your post. He gave us the green light. He and we now have an accord in the usage of his last name.

Arkady, the 'bullets in brain pans' idea won't work in most stations due to the security protocols in most stations that won't allow you out of your quarters while armed. This is especially true in low-sec stations where station owners don't want patrons to outmatch security, so that a semblance of order can be maintained. Due to this fact, a breed of mercenary assassin evolved to fill this niche, with bio-mechanical upgrades so they can kill with hand-to-hand combat and improvised weapons. I wouldn't mind seeing that implemented. Keep people on their toes. Read The Empyrean Age.


PvP bar-brawls (Your corp. vs. war-targets for example.): Make it happen, CCP!Twisted

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Snowulf Romanov
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#432 - 2012-03-05 02:52:06 UTC
Minta Contha wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Minta Contha wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Ka P'lah wrote:
Future of the game we like? Nooo, don't wanna talk about that! I wanna harp on someone's post signature format! ...I guess that sort of thing is easier...


The future of the game that you envision isn't worth discussing. Mining mini-games and space barbies? No thanks.



Well I guess if the Goons are getting as antsy as they are then it's a sign that Issler's support is snowballing. Smile


Her using a bunch of sock puppets is hardly proof of her support snowballing. In her defense, though, it's good that her alts are voting for her as it would be really embarrassing if they voted for a real candidate.


Next time you see me in game, Harlot, we can have a voice chat to prove I'm no alt. That is if you actually ever play the game, rather than forcing us to look at your sandpaper face on the forum.


That face literally made me do a double take.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#433 - 2012-03-05 02:53:23 UTC
Minta Contha wrote:
That is if you actually ever play the game, rather than forcing us to look at your sandpaper face on the forum.


Issler, personal attacks are against the forum rules.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#434 - 2012-03-05 06:28:05 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Minta Contha wrote:
That is if you actually ever play the game, rather than forcing us to look at your sandpaper face on the forum.


Issler, personal attacks are against the forum rules.


Yeah, so why do goonies get away with making them left, right, and centre?

You lot may be "speshul," but I'd had the impression that no-one is "special," if you see what I mean.

Also, there is no way you couldn't have put a lot of time into that awful little avatar, so do be more careful with rocks vis-a-vis glass houses, 'kay?

<3ulots, ur spacefriend 4ever, xoxoxoxoxo

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#435 - 2012-03-05 09:27:48 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Yeah, so why do goonies get away with making them left, right, and centre?


We don't. We're just better posters.


The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Flamespar
WarRavens
#436 - 2012-03-05 10:43:02 UTC
Bless you all for responding to the Goon trolls in this thread.

Personally I couldn't be bothered trying to interpret their incoherent hoots and clicks so I just blocked them.

Vote Issler.
Taiwanistan
#437 - 2012-03-05 10:46:45 UTC
what do you say issler?

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Hai Boiz wrote:
People like to chit chat.

They do it at home. They do it at work. And they do it in eve-o. People have been chatting in this thread alone for months and months and 170 pages.

Some like to chat while flying in space. Some like to chat while spinning their ship. I'd like to sit across from someone in a station and chat. Why would a ship spinner want to deny me that little pleasure? Let me have a guest over for a nice quaffe and a little quality conversation.

XX



As I've pointed out several times, social gameplay is the mother of emergent gameplay. It needs a minimal investment in infrastructure and can keep players amused like forever. Just hand out some tools and allow people use them. Organized gameplay is cool to have, NPC interaction is cool, but from a cost/profit POV there is nothing as effective as just let people interact through avatars. Throw in some "hologram" technology so they're not forced to be aboard the same station and ther you go. Now add some advantages to physically being there (I already suggested stuff like kissing, caressing, punching, slapping... or dancing, if CCP were up to a tough ball; i've been iterating on the dance concept and I am figuring ways so two players can syncronize their moves within EVE's 1 second server frames... I don't mean "hit dance emote, do silly moves", rather "press the right keys at the right time so the server is fed the right "combos" from both sides at the right time and plays the right animation... in my limited knowledge, nobody ever tried that online...)

Err, to the point, there are lots of things that can be done as tools for friendly social interaction. If someone wants avatar PvP, they may have it, as long as it is not shoved down the throat of every player. Stations are griefing free zones and should stay like that. The worst that can happen in a station is being scammed and that must stay like that.

TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#438 - 2012-03-05 20:36:55 UTC
Taiwanistan wrote:
what do you say issler?

Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Hai Boiz wrote:
People like to chit chat.

They do it at home. They do it at work. And they do it in eve-o. People have been chatting in this thread alone for months and months and 170 pages.

Some like to chat while flying in space. Some like to chat while spinning their ship. I'd like to sit across from someone in a station and chat. Why would a ship spinner want to deny me that little pleasure? Let me have a guest over for a nice quaffe and a little quality conversation.

XX



As I've pointed out several times, social gameplay is the mother of emergent gameplay. It needs a minimal investment in infrastructure and can keep players amused like forever. Just hand out some tools and allow people use them. Organized gameplay is cool to have, NPC interaction is cool, but from a cost/profit POV there is nothing as effective as just let people interact through avatars. Throw in some "hologram" technology so they're not forced to be aboard the same station and ther you go. Now add some advantages to physically being there (I already suggested stuff like kissing, caressing, punching, slapping... or dancing, if CCP were up to a tough ball; i've been iterating on the dance concept and I am figuring ways so two players can syncronize their moves within EVE's 1 second server frames... I don't mean "hit dance emote, do silly moves", rather "press the right keys at the right time so the server is fed the right "combos" from both sides at the right time and plays the right animation... in my limited knowledge, nobody ever tried that online...)

Err, to the point, there are lots of things that can be done as tools for friendly social interaction. If someone wants avatar PvP, they may have it, as long as it is not shoved down the throat of every player. Stations are griefing free zones and should stay like that. The worst that can happen in a station is being scammed and that must stay like that.



Is there a question in there?

Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#439 - 2012-03-05 20:45:46 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
With WiS (and Walking in Ships While They're in Stations), would I be able to undock with someone else in my ship? Like, have passengers that aren't exotic dancers or homeless people? As in, actual players? This has interesting gameplay implications, since I could then in theory fly someone with -10 sec into hisec in any ship.


I never did get an answer to this. I think it's a fair question.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#440 - 2012-03-05 21:19:55 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
With WiS (and Walking in Ships While They're in Stations), would I be able to undock with someone else in my ship? Like, have passengers that aren't exotic dancers or homeless people? As in, actual players? This has interesting gameplay implications, since I could then in theory fly someone with -10 sec into hisec in any ship.


I never did get an answer to this. I think it's a fair question.


I think passengers in ships is an interesting idea.

Issler