Jita Park Speakers Corner

How exactly is this different from how Faction Warfare already works? I must be missing something....

I thought it was common knowledge that FW is fought in lowsec, and it is common knowledge that when you move from highsec to lowsec you enter a dangerous zone. Players can already join the FW NPC corp and avoid player corps if they wish to remain individuals, and there is already militia channel for everyone in the NPC corp to use.

Is it really not spelled out clearly enough when you join Faction Warfare that lowsec is dangerous and that you should fleet with others? I mean, there's enough people confused about this that we need to specifically message them?

Serious question, not trolling, it's been two years since I enrolled so I don't know what they tell new players when you enlist these days.

My first goal was to find a mercenary corp that effectively punished griefers. That was before I learned that EVE is all about being unable to punish griefers in any meaningful way, and the practical joke that griefers use bounty system to line their pockets was just to top the cake.

Everything else was related to being an uncool player and i don't feel like feeding the trolls.

Hm, that would help with the altcorp haulers/miners etc etc.

Does concord still interfere if you kill a FW target in hisec? By target I of course mean the extremely dangerous and terrifying freighter and hulk. In particular the "jita" spawn of the former and "veldspar" of the latter.

I've never PvP on purpose, but when i lost the pod. Also the Purifiers were gone learning to rat in lowsec. I don't have any kind of trauma about it. Also i belonged to two hisec corporations (one of them was robbed by the CEO right after moving to nullsec, but I still was in hisec), but never was in PvP.

So, why should i have been in a fleet? Most times i was either minding my hisec bussiness or looking for PvP or putting myself in risk of PvP on purpose.

And you may agree that losing 13 ships over 2 years is not exactly a battle-thirsty record.

(That list misses one loss, which i had with my first main... but then that loss was reimbursed by the killer, true! Was then when I fancied to help the "good fighters" and make life miserable to "worthless scum" to clean up EVE of them... ah, the noob's naivety... .)

You're right, it's not really any different. I'm just suggesting that it should be mandatory for new players in NPC corps because it would force them to:
a) form fleets with strangers for role playing combat, or
b) join a player corp.

These are things that all new players should be doing eventually. Here's my secret agenda: I want to make it harder for people to use a safe 'alt' in a NPC corp for scouting/hauling/looting. Alts break the game.


Yes. [Edit: No.]



Does anyone really care about sec standing in low-sec? You could make a pirate alt and train the skills to kill any noob in a week.



Isn't that the point of the CSM? I am offerring my suggestions to a potential candidate, who can choose whether to raise them with CCP at the annual meeting.


This is a very common point of view. Some players think PvP is the ONLY way eve should be played. They would rather see high-sec, noobs, mission runners, miners and incursion farmers removed from the game. They call us all 'botters' because they don't understand how real people could actually enjoy doing these things. This is exactly why empire space needs representation on the CSM. The most recent CSM meeting minutes made it clear that the focus is on nullsec alliance warfare and nothing else.

Ships destroyed in the week after the crucible update:

High Sec
PvP: 11,676
PvE: 30,602

Low sec
PvP: 21,104
PvE: 1,871

Null sec
PvP: 37,866
PvE: 2,647

Wormhole Space
PvP: 5,448
PvE: 783

Source:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3266

I can't find better statistics about the number of players active in each region. Since most players are paying a subscription fee to play, this data seems to indicate that Empire PvE is an important source of revenue for CCP, right? They probably care about that.

I don't think that's what it means. Wouldn't that be ships including NPC ships?

I see that the people in Empire must've been ratting or missioning. Surely the low rat kills in null is because we were all MINING !

Any numbers on asteroids destroyed in the same time period?

I can happily refer the group here to said statistics. John Turbefield AKA CCP Diagoras has a fantastic twitter feed where he dumps out all sorts of EvE statistics, and you can request info via twitter to him as well. He's a pretty cool dude. I suggest you "follow" him if you use twitter.

Anyways, here's the latest graph he published, the data is less than two weeks old.

20% Nullsec residents.
5% Wormholers.
8% Lowsec residents.
67% Highsec residents.

I can happily refer the group here to said statistics. John Turbefield AKA CCP Diagoras has a fantastic twitter feed where he dumps out all sorts of EvE statistics, and you can request info via twitter to him as well. He's a pretty cool dude. I suggest you "follow" him if you use twitter.

Anyways, here's the data from the latest graph he published, the data is less than two weeks old. The damn forums keep screwing up the link, I apologize.

20% Nullsec residents.
5% Wormholers.
8% Lowsec residents.
67% Highsec residents.

Keep in mind these are simply characters and where they reside, there is absolutely no way to prove how many of those are alts or mains of someone living in a different region.

All claims about who's an alt of whom are pure speculation.

Lets take a look and compare just null and high sec.

High sec total ship loss 42278
Null Sec total ship loss 40513
Difference 1765

Darn I guess the split is about 51/49 I guess 51% IS a large source of revenue for ccp. But then again considering the massive clusterfuck nullsec has been for years That is hardly surprising.

But wait. What is this. Your post again picks a single point and then does nothing to refute anything in my follow up post or my main post.



You claim high sec is under represented. I claim its been over represented and over listened to through the years. I claim that CCP has been influenced far more by your choice of gameplay then what CCP really wants the game to be. I think CCP wants the game to be mostly about the null sec pvp and politics. Your little statistic only adds fuel to nullsec's point of view.

Its time for null sec to get fixed. Its time for all of the technological advances EVE and CCP have made to attract back the customers they lost that did play in null due to bad mechanics and bad server performance. Its time the game was more enjoyable for every gameplay style in nullsec then it is in highsec.

I say if you don't want cut throat hard core game mechanics and you want to sit in the relative protection of high sec without any real risk vs reward. You should go play farmville.