Missions & Complexes

Running 0.0 Anoms in a tengu vs Sansha, getting about 400 DPS with T1 Thunderbolts which is enough, but its not exactly ganky, is cost effective to use T2 Missiles (High Damage/Precision), and how much isk will i burn through in comparison to using T1??

Thanks in Advanced

You will have a noticeable difference in damage but since tengu has a boost only for kinetic damage, u won't match the full potential.

Also u'll have at least 2 volleys in space before the npc dies from the previous ones so that's 2 volleys wasted for every bs rat if you are orbiting at 50+ kms. You can avoid it if you are volley counting but its only practical for bc rats.

One trick i find useful is to switch targets to the next rat when the current target gets to1/4th structure damage. If you are orbiting at 60+ km then the volleys in space will finish him off. this way u don't have to count. But even this gets tedious after sometime so now i use only t1 missiles. A bit slow but it will get the job done anyway.

Get a Golem or CNR ;)

My point was Provi isn't precisely valuable space, the rats aren't great compared to a lot of other places.

But yes, its not a huge cost, I guess Im just tight with my iskies.

And while a Golem or CNR might be better for some things, there tanks are significantly weaker when you count the speed and low sig of a Tengu, that and a cruiser sized hulls GTFO ability is very useful for null, not to mention being able to go cloaky nulli at a moments notice.

Thought they removed the penalties on T2 Missiles??

I have run the test across a couple of missions I was farming one week and generally find that using T1 will save ISK and T2 will save time. Decide what is more important for you. I tend to just use T2 on the BS and T1 on everything else which helps the inner frugal.
That said, Tengu loses a lot of efficiency against BS heavy Sansha and Blood missions, so I'll typically use a CNR in those. Still the Tengu has more "fun" factor, IMHO.

Yes T2 are worth every shot. There is no way to argue otherwise. If you are making the kind of cash I think you are I agree with the guy above you missed his point.

I can understand someone with no money trying to save a few isk per kill but really killign anons and worried about buying T2 missiles?

Faction now yeah that is a waste for PVE.


With Em Fury I get 601 DPS compared to standard 456 DPS

The idea that Tengu gimped without kinetic is also another myth. You still get ROF Vel and other bonuses regardless of missile used.

LOL, we all different.

I now virtually always use T2 ammo for PvEcombat - hisec, lowsec, nullsec, & w-space. I build my own, so usually cheaper than on-market, but also buy from market when I runout and am not near my own supplies.

I haven't done the math in any detail but my understanding / reasoning is that everything is quicker with t2 weapons / ammo, but that many things can also be done and done cheaper using T1 equivalents.

as a row of tents.

oh, wait ....

Too expensive for the dps increase. Its only really viable on those 4 gun ships with the bonus. Or laser crystals.