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New Player Advice: surviving your first month in EVE

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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-01-25 10:28:13 UTC
Last autumn CCP Fallout introduced a weekly section where EVE Online veterans could share their own experiences on a certain topic with the new citizens of New Eden. We decided it is time to bring it back, so please welcome: the New Player Advice 2012! It is going to be published on a bi-weekly basis and cover a wide range of questions most commonly asked by the new players. Everyone is welcome to pitch in and contribute their own answers and advice, but please do so in a civil and friendly manner.

So you finally decided to give EVE Online a try. The game client is downloaded and installed; you have already found the EVElopedia and the ISK Guide; a friend gave you a few useful tips… and yet after logging into the game you feel completely overwhelmed.

How did you survive your first month in EVE Online? Did you have a plan, or did you just start doing things at random? Did you try to explore as many different areas of the game as possible, or selected a career and stuck to it? Which piece of information was the most helpful to you during your first days in the game?

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Fraa Bjorn
Cell 317
#2 - 2012-01-25 10:39:00 UTC
I was afraid of jumping out of the newbie system, for fear of getting lost. =)
One of my first advice was: Buy the cheapest you can, even if you have to travel 3 jumps to pick it up. And use your asset-window to set autopilot direction to where you keep your stuff.

All games have QQ, but only Eve has Q.Q

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#3 - 2012-01-25 10:56:11 UTC
Fraa Bjorn wrote:
I was afraid of jumping out of the newbie system, for fear of getting lost. =)
One of my first advice was: Buy the cheapest you can, even if you have to travel 3 jumps to pick it up. And use your asset-window to set autopilot direction to where you keep your stuff.


This is really good advice.

I actually still use several of them.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Endeavour Starfleet
#4 - 2012-01-25 10:57:43 UTC
Stay in the starter system until you have had PLENTY of time to get used to all the tutorials and everything involved. The starter system has a special ruleset that protects newer players from some of the harsher realities of EVE before they are ready. Straying from that and being ganked or affected can leave a bad experience and a bad first impression of what is actually an extremely detailed game. Unless you have a friend helping you out. Take things SLOWLY.
Liam Mirren
#5 - 2012-01-25 11:33:58 UTC
I'm building up a bundle of guides to help new players get into EVE, I just started this a few days ago and I'll keep adding more (and editing) the whole time. Link is in my signature, if someone has questions or ideas feel free to contact me.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.

Revara Ormand
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-25 15:36:48 UTC
as said before take your time to do the tutorial missions.

make out your goal in eve and start working towards it.

join a corporation to learn you stuff and help fitting your ship.

after the tutorials and you are able to fly a very well fitted frigate or cruiser do the sisters of eve epic arc missions.

This will help a lot and give you a nice boost of standing and isk in the end.
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#7 - 2012-01-25 16:13:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Bloodpetal
Stay out of Amamake and Rancer.


Twisted


I was 8 days old the first time I got blown up, jumping into Amamake - totally clueless, in my totally cool Minmatar Hoarder.

And then as my shields went red and I caught a glimpse of the combat message, all I saw was , "Tillers Cruise Missile hits you for 100,000,000 damage."

And my first thought was, "Cruise missile, isn't that a bit of overkill?" - Not that I had a clue what a Cruise Missile was, nor what Low Sec truly meant, nor did I have a clue about EVE other than trying to go out and "Strike it rich and explore".

Alas, I didn't realize that Industrials are the worst exploration vessels (mind you this was 7 years ago).


Noobs should be armed with 3 things :

#1 - Murphy's Law - EVE Corollary : if it CAN go wrong, you will die in a horrible ball of fire before you even realize what happened. Guaranteed, 100%. If you think "It won't happen to me" this is 100 times more likely to happen to you. Meaning you have a 10,000% chance of dying horribly. Do the math, it's not in your favor. This applies to EVE Noobs and EVE Veterans. i.e. "My fleet of 100 hurricanes won't get hot dropped by 50 carriers". It will.


#2 - You will blow up. You can not survive that fact. You can survive that it was pretty damned cool and go get yourself another ship and try and do it better next time and make sure you leave no margin for error for rule #1 to kick in.


#3 - Rule #2 and Rule #1 don't apply if your **** drunk. (They do, but you're less likely to remember it happening.)

Where I am.

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-01-25 16:31:56 UTC
ALWAYS use the "View Details" button to see the individual Buy and Sell orders of an item.

And also set your market up like this so you can see all the items (whether or not they're available, at least you'll know they exist) and to avoid ever buying stuff in lowsec.

http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l338/Xenoninja42/20110410204009.jpg

The Drake is a Lie

Kusanagi Kasuga
Indigo Archive
Ivy League Alt Alliance
#9 - 2012-01-25 16:59:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Kusanagi Kasuga
1) Join a corp. Doesn't matter that much which, but joining any corp will help you have more fun.
If you don't know which to join, join EVE University.

2) There is no such thing as a corp-joining deposit for GoonSwarm.
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-01-25 17:14:23 UTC
First you need to find out what you want to do the most in Eve. Do you want to fight in spaceships? Do you want to mine minerals and sell on the market? Do you want to haul goods around for other players?

Once you decide what you want to be, the best thing to do next is to join a corporation which offers what you are looking for. There are a ton of corporations looking for eager new players to help train and the experience and knowledge you get is invaluable
BeanBagKing
The Order of Atlas
#11 - 2012-01-25 17:45:14 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
How did you survive your first month in EVE Online? Did you have a plan, or did you just start doing things at random? Did you try to explore as many different areas of the game as possible, or selected a career and stuck to it? Which piece of information was the most helpful to you during your first days in the game?


I started with a few friends, which quickly dwindled to only two of us playing. I forget exactly what my first few days were like but I remember I chose combat in a broad sense as the direction I wanted to take. Me and that friend joined a small startup corp a few days in with guys we were chatting with in local. They were a pirate corp, not that we did much pirating, but the corp part really helped me stick with it I think.

I don't remember a single most helpful piece of information (other than the corp itself, new players, get involved in one), but after recently helping a friend he thought the most useful thing was me helping him setup is UI. By helping I of course mean copying all of my settings to his machine so he had exactly the same UI and overview as me. Everyone's UI and overview are different, but if you can get someone that's been playing for a few years then most of that stuff is just the details, the broad picture is that it's years of getting it setup to be efficient. It really helps.
gfldex
#12 - 2012-01-25 21:51:12 UTC
A long long time ago I had my first month in EVE. After doing the fairly brief tutorials I fired up the market and studied what kind of stuff was there to figure out what I want. After I knew what I wanted I started to look for a corp on various forums.

Since back then there was no way to tell if one was still on his trial I had to wait another week or so before I could join the corp with the best spelling in it's recruitment post. If I had known about killboards, I would have looked there. (Little hind, try not to join the pray.)

I ended up in the middle of one of the biggest wars EVE ever had. It was a requirement to learn to survive. The safety of highsec would not have helped me to learn what the game is about. (Little hind, it is not who got the most faction mods.)

There was a lot of fun to had and I met players I stuck with for the next few years. The fun you will have in EVE heavyly depends on the corp you are in. Make a good pick.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-01-25 22:04:36 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
When I started I already had in mind what I wanted to do, which was Industry (puts on his carebear flaming tank). I found a nice corporation to join and they thought me a lot of the basic stuff around EVE *yet not everything*.

Once that corp got wardecced (how the hell would I know about wardecs and overview icons) I lost a dozen of ships cause war targets camped my station out of which I kept undocking. After I believe the 8th ship 1 of them opened convo and explained how war / PvP rules worked in EVE and even refunded my lost ships + some extra cash.

I felt a bit down by this war mechanics etc and decided to get back in NPC corps for now, started building up but became bored again of that corp. One day I was mining in high-sec when a (at that time) massive mining fleet rolled in with me in the belt. Did a check on them and actually joined them not long after that. Stayed there for a while before trying multiple things out, shortly after I was 1 year old, I took the leap of faith into null-sec and I love it.

My advice for the new guys on their first month:

1.) Take your time, you are new. So did the older toons in EVE, they went to everything you are going through at this stage.
2.) Ask questions when you don't know something. There is only 1 stupid question, that is the question you didn't ask.
3.) When flying around and lost, open assets to see where your stuff is. Right click the station that it's in and set destination. All you now have to do is follow the yellow bricked road (aka the yellow coloured stargates).
4.) Most important IMO: Have fun and do what you like to do, after all EVE is a game and you pay for it. So you should have fun playing it.

Also, finding a nice corp that you like and does the things you do is a nice addition to EVE, after all it's a MMO. But keep in mind research a corp before you join, see how they are, what they do and also how active they are at the times you play.

p.s. If a new player ever needs advice on questions or how to research a corp, just open a converstation when I'm on or shoot me an EVEmail.

EDIT:
I just remember I have some more advice:
5.) When in doubt what a module does, or what kind of ship you are buying, right click it and select show info. the show info (description, attributes, prerequirements) will show you all the information you need, from what the module does, what bonuses the ship gets and which skills it takes. Lately I told a 'older' pilot in my corp the same in a less nice way: "Click the ****ing show info button".

And then there are the 3 golden rules in EVE:
1.) Don't fly what you can't afford to loose. (any ship you fly can be shot down by others, even in high-sec. So if you fly around, your wallet should be able to buy at least another of that particular ship.)
2.) Don't trust anybody you don't know in real life. (EVE is a very harsh world, as soon as you fly out of the starting-system you will eventually find out. Scamming and lots of forms of grieving are allowed, so trust is something that has to be earned in EVE and not given to just anyone.)
3.) If it sounds to good to be true, it is. (Like real life, nothing comes without a price. If you see something that sounds like a really really good offer, look closely at it as it is likely a scam. On contracts / trades, always double (or tripple) check what you are buying (show info *yes here it is again* on the items) and for how much you are buying it. (1,000,000.00 looks very similar as 100,000,000.00 when you don't pay attention)

Kind regards, fly safe and hope you have a good time in EVE,

J'Poll

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Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-01-25 22:50:44 UTC
Stay out of lowsec until your ready to lose ships and not be put off by it.

Especially stay away from flashy reds in lowsec camping gates in tornado's and thrashers X

I'm still new here too, but get stuck in and make friends if possible, dont abuse people in local if you do happen to lose a ship, it will only make them go out their way to do it again.

Find out what it is you want to do and make a plan for it. It will give your playtime a meaning.

Dont be afraid to ask questions in rookie chat or local, most will see your new and help, others, not so much.

HAVE FUN!! <-- Most inportant aspect


I cant vouch for this one personally as im still in an NPC corp, but i keep getting to told to find a player corp to help stave off the boredom of solo flying ( i can see where they're coming from at the moment with that advice )
But, dont jump into the first corp that accepts you,do a little homework first. Nothing worse than seeing a 12month old player who's been in 20 corps already lol

Dyaven
#15 - 2012-01-26 02:16:05 UTC
I remember going into lowsec for the first time in a Vexor and shooting a hauler on a gate. That was the day I learned of the existance of gate guns.
Kata Amentis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-01-26 13:25:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Kata Amentis
In eve dying carries a lot of stigma for many people to start with. It is also one of the best learning experiences, and it's the cheapest when you're new.

So at some point in the first few weeks, make the decision to give it a go;


  • upgrade your clone to cover your sp amount, set the station to somewhere local to your stuff.
  • get a couple of cheap ships (frigates are great).
  • fit them (web search or ask someone for a fit).
  • insure them (you're going to die, that's the point, might as well limit the isk lost right?).
  • find your nearest low sec system (or ask a local).
  • go find someone to shoot at (freebie: try to avoid doing this at a gate, dying by gate guns doesn't help here).
  • Get popped, and most likely podded.


The idea here isn't to "win", it's to give it a go and die in the process.

Realize that is wasn't that bad, and if you've been asking people for advice you just interacted with 3+ people you'd never met before... and it was your choice to go do it: that's much better than waiting to be someone's victim, and in eve unless you hide in a station your entire time you'll be shot at by someone at some point.

Now go back to the people you chatted to, or some new people and share what you did, and see if you can learn from it. If you liked it, give it another go tomorrow/next week/whenever you decide to next time.


Even if it turns out you don't like pvp combat, at least you'll know, rather than fear it as an unknown. If you really did like it, time to look for some corp where you can be a hero tackler frigate... no one ever has enough of them.


More general advice: try not to take things, or yourself too seriously. Have fun and give things a go, when you get stuck, ask people (note plural, always best to check rather than take one person's word for it).

Curiosity killed the Kata... ... but being immortal he wasn't too worried about keeping a count.

Kata Amentis
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-01-26 13:33:47 UTC
oh, and before you hit "post" or "preview" on the forums... do a ctrl+a ctrl+c... then when the forum eats you post you can just paste it back in and push the button again...

Curiosity killed the Kata... ... but being immortal he wasn't too worried about keeping a count.

Drez Ledaza
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-01-26 20:08:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Drez Ledaza
I am not a month old yet, but i am having fun doing 2 things mostly....

Firstly, low sec roams in my Rifter just ratting and salvaging, or stealing loot!! Burning my d-scan out like mad but a good rush.

Secondly in high sec. I watched a great youtube vid and now have a Probe with expanded probe launcher and a Vigil with salvagers and speed boosts. I join Drakes and Navy Ravens doing their missions, and help them with their recycling. This pays for my Rifter roams.

Amamake is one bad place, i found out last night :(

My advice is watch corp (NPC in my case) chat and if anyone mentions something that sounds appealing, go to google and youtube and check it out.

EDIT :- I did a 2 week trial before xmas.
Robby Altair
#19 - 2012-01-26 21:42:36 UTC
How do you survive your first month in EVE Online? My advice. Read the patch feedback and issues forums.

Examples:

EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Feedback

EVE Online: Crucible 1.1 Issues

Now go fly your rookie ships into 0.0 space. So what your character loses a free ship and gets a new free clone. It's free.

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Iskawa Zebrut
Smoke to Train - Train to Smoke
#20 - 2012-01-27 11:21:16 UTC
You just have to go... a little crazy. And then, suddenly, it all makes sense, and everything you do turns to gold.
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