Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Indeed, it's called using the right tool for the job... and using it properly.

OP, you know as well as everyone else in this thread you will never get changes made that allow aggression across multiple accounts. For reasons other than invasion of privacy and breaches of the EULA.

For that you should thank your lucky stars, because if you can achieve this... so can the gankers through various methods.

How would multibox mining fleets fair if one mistake gave kill rights on say 20 of their characters.... whenever.... where ever.

The ways to exploit your proposal are many and varied.

In the end, you would be drawn and quartered by the general EVE industrial community.

As always in EVE, be careful what you wish for... you might get it.

Iteron 5, extreme example and my point? It still died.

I was merely thinking about a simple list of toons, where everyone can just see which toons are belonging together, and only that (no info on the account, just that those toons are apparently played from the same player, whoever that may be). Since the subscriber can also see the list, he would be able to tell if there are mistakes and could petition them (if there are toons not belonging to him he would know that there is something fishy and he should alert a GM to make sure his account won´t be affected, since such toons would be banned this toon can´t be used afterwards, if there are toons missing they are mistakenly connected to someone else, and if you don´t want him to ban your char, you should petition that as well).

Like this ccp don´t need to verify anything. Everyone can see themselves in that list if all chars are correctly shown. If not, they can immediately tell ccp themselves that something isn´t right. Of course, this works only with legitimate accounts as others wont tell ccp anything, but that is enough, this isn´t intended for catching botters or something after all.

By the way, it´s not like i´m affected from gankers, i fly only pvp ships. However, i do look down on gankers because they don´t know their place, getting uppity with delusions of grandeur how 1337 they are when they are hardly better than prey themselves. So i´m just sympathetic with anything that makes them whine.

I have had dosens of fights like that and not died. The tank on a T2 hauler is so good I would happily go up againts just about anything solo if only it had a gun slot.

You dont need to tank things for anywhere near as long as me before concord comes in to save you.

T2 Haulers can be tanked. Hmm.. now that you mention it, I need to set up an Impel for Ice mining.
NM, the barge will still die. oh well back to the drawing board.

1) I want fight. Kill correct alt.

2) Read thread.

3) Not all time your cargo and not all time station.

4) You ever ganked? Fast lock module.

5) That first hit with one ship. Then next second 986 and x6 second before Concord arrest. Same chance no max damage is same chance no max tank.

Just a few things that got me to giggle a bit:

If you see the flashing yellow box on some ones ship, they HAVE locked you. That does not mean that they are targeting you. That means you have been locked already so watch yourself. Just a helpful hint to the noobs out there.

If you undock a ship that you can not afford to lose your dumb.
If you fly a ship, any ship, and you lose it repeatedly in the same way, in the same circumstances, than you need to learn from your mistakes. Not repeat them.

If you plan on playing alone in a game where being in groups is more beneficial than not than you need to rethink things and get some EVE friends.

There is nothing wrong with only having one account. There are just so many more benefits to having more than one. There are reasons so many EVE players do it.

Lastly, either learn to play the game the way it was designed or don't play it at all. Eve is unique because of the way it is designed to be and will always, I hope, be that way. Asking CCP to change the way it is just isn't right in itself. Learn to do what every other human being in existance has had to do. Adapt.

"Darwin said: It is not the strongest of the species that survives. Nor the most intelligent. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change." From a Dues-Ex trailer
..... or HTFU, die trying or GTFO. Simple.

Guide to fighting Hulkageddon

I outline a 30-40k EHP hulk with t2 miners in this article.

• Do you sacrifice some mining efficiency for the tank... yes, but that's the nature of this game...
• Is it unkillable... No... 4-5 catalysts would probably do it, but do you really think you deserve to live against 4-5 catalysts?
• Can it be ganked for profit... If you use cheap-fit catalysts and salvage the wreck... potentially, but typically not a big profit.

[quote=Gizznitt Malikite]

Guide to fighting Hulkageddon

I outline a 30-40k EHP hulk with t2 miners in this article. [list]

With all due respect because while my tinfoil hat might tell me there are other options, I will assume you were well intentioned but most dps in EVE is base damage and resist fits don't work when you ae dealing with alpha damage.

The flaws in your fit are everywhere. A medium core defence fit means you survived the volley and are recharging your shield. The resists don't buffer base damages, only the resist damages.

The best fit to survive a volly or alpha strike is a DCU hull tank. Base damages don't work with hull and you only get resist numbers on the hull at 40% thier value, so the volley never pops you.
You can't buffer hull tank a ship that only has 2 lows.

That would make more sense than giving aggro to all those characters (which would be plain game-breaking). However, any solution that goes outside consequences for the individual ganking character massively breaks immersion, and will have wide-ranging effects across all walks of life in Eve -- nullsec alliances could destroy each others' hisec alts with impunity, and spying would become virtually impossible, to name a couple.

Nerfing ganking does not affect me either, for the record. There's way more exciting fights to be had when the target can shoot back. That said, I have suicide ganked two people: one who was AFKing outside station in an unfit Dramiel (wtf), and another who was station-camping in a sensor-booster untanked Daredevil, pretending he was a Stiletto.