Player Features and Ideas Discussion

i'm pretty sure than throwaway 1 week old char killed your hulk with Thrasher does really worth your time to hunt..... yea....

If a 1-week-old throwaway alt managed to kill your hulk, you deserved to lose it. Complete non-issue.

EVE is a sandbox, not a walled garden.

High security space isnt safe, it just has consequences for whoever decides to attack someone else without a wardec/aggression from canflipping or similar.

Stop bitching and harden the **** up already.

Ganking is a fact of life for every MMO that contains open PVP.

there is not way to stop it, you must learn to deal with it in your own way. most will simply learn to avoid it.

The problem I have is the Gankers starting threads complaining about the lack of PVP.

When PVP is completely one sided the victims of the gankers will not keep coming back.

No amount of developer added content is going to force carebears to become your victims.

eventually all your victims will either learn to avoid you, or quit the game entirely. this has been the downfall of most open world PVP MMO games.

Ganking is not PVP.

PVP involves PVP players fighting each other

Ganking involves PVP players jumping usually carebears or non PVP players with either excessive numbers or vastly superior equipment/character level so that they do not stand a chance.

There is a fine line between say ganking and gate camping or blobing.

The big difference is Ganking is mostly grieving while gate camping or blobbing is about controlling a system, area or pipe.

I hate blobbing almost as much as I hate Ganking but at least blobbing has a purpose.

Seriously though how is ganking even fun. Being able to kill carebears or even other PVPers with nothing more than excessive force holds no challenge. It does not prove your worth as a PVPer, if anything it makes you look like the only way you can get kills is by hopelessly out gunning or out numbering your victims.

Suicide ganking industrial ships in high sec for profit is an entirely different matter. This is done for profit and adds a needed criminal element to high sec.

PVP is a lot of fun, and I am not talking about standing around having 1 vs 1 duels, but winning fights on you own merits. the higher the risk to yourself the more rewarding it feels when you pull it off and actually win. Where is the sense of reward or accomplishment if it was a fight you had no chance of losing.

Grow up, grow a pair and learn what real PVP is all about.

actually they already have the ability to track accounts using the same ip. try logging in a trial account and an active account at the same time, from the same IP even on separate machines. it would be easy to group accounts by referencing credit card numbers and IP used to log on. there are workarounds for this using proxy servers and such but most gankers are not smart enough to know how to do that.

Honestly, it's quite easy to avoid being ganked...or least to avoid losing anything of value if you should be ganked.

Don't transport expensive goods in shuttles and T1 industrials. Do you really expect your sub-million isk ship to protect you from being mugged?

Don't afk mine or run bots. If you're attentive and take precautions, there's no reason to ever lose your hulk.

Don't fly pointlessly shiny ships that will attract gankers. That 30 billion isk paladin people still talk about? That fit was NOT worth the isk invested in it...but it was so valuable that you could give up dozens of battleships to take it down and still profit.

edit: if you want to be able to defend yourself against gankers, do so by causing them to fail in their attempts.

Asking for all accounts to be linked to the same player assumes that can be done. If I didn't publicly link myself to characters on my other accounts, CCP would have a hard time tying them together: different e-mails and different payment methods are used for each of them.

Have you... even read what I wrote? IP address filtering for trial accounts works because you likely won't have multiple people behind a firewall using trial accounts. You can very likely have multiple Eve players behind a firewall all playing Eve. Heck, I often do, and it's not me and a bunch of alts, I guarantee you. On top of that, IP addresses can be spoofed and can switch depending on your ISP. It's also easier than you think to use a proxy server.

Credit card numbers also change, and payment type from one month to the other can change (credit card, PayPal, WebMoney).

What this idea would do is push consequences for Eve behavior into the RL world, and nobody needs that.

I own:

A Blocade runner which is invincible in high and low sec space. Nothing can catch one unless the pilot is bad.

A super tank Deep space transport with a bigger buffer than many battleships. You need a fleet to kill it before concord comes and nukes you.



As I said, only the stupids get killed easily.

Wow, I french person who doesn't want to fight, never heard of that one before!

On a more serious note, what you are suggesting is completely impossible, gankers will just fuel their alt with plex, register with fake details then the accounts aren't linked.

Also, you BOTH choose what to risk when you undocked.

Also 'no warning'? Duh the yellow box comes up when they start to lock you.

Oh and you need to learn the game mechanics as well, just because the damage is over the EHP doesn't mean its a one hit kill, there are a lot of other factors at play unless you are sitting stationary with 30 Target painters on you at zero range.

I think you are on to something there. Next step is to realize that there are other ships available for other tasks.