Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So, tons of people seem to have a huge issue with large fleets of tengus/drakes, which apparently is leading up to a possible nerf of the drake, and if other players have it there way, a nerf of tengus.

My suggestion actually slides the other way to balance these fleets instead of balancing the ships, which can lead to weak missile boats which is already bad enough considering how weak missiles are in pvp unless in a large fleet.

Ok, so to balance large missile fleets, how about creating something related to missile feedback, which would essentially mean, the more missiles are being fired at a target of one type of missile (I.E. heavy missiles), then it creates a feed back effect because they share similar frequencies in order to communicate with the ships to which they originated from.
This feed back can effect the missiles tracking on the target reducing their effectiveness of when and where to detinate. Thus reducing the accuracy of missiles slightly... The more and more ships there are firing the same type of missile, the less and less effective they become at engaging the target, but never to the point where they become useless, but instead encouraging more mixed missile fleets instead of several of the same ship using the same size missiles.

Now, this will allow for other balancing mechanics on missile boats in general to allow them to be more effective in pvp.
Here are some suggestions on this.

1) Reduce the explosion radius of torps and cruise missiles. Currently, even a Golem with bonuses to target painters still needs at least 3 target painters to have full effective dps against targets. The golem shouldn't require more than 2 target painters considering its bonus

2) Target painters are an issue of their own. Based on the rigs that CCP has created, it appears that the ships do have some play in the effectiveness of missiles to include their explosion radius and exp velocity. I suggest that they remove target painters and replace them with passive modules similar to tracking modules for turrets that don't use cap, and unlike target painters, don't have an optimal range.

3) Missiles waisting volleys or cutting short on volleys thinking the amount fired will be enough to destroy the target becomes an extremely annoying issue for missile pilots in both pvp and pve.
My suggestion to fix this is to actually increase the velocity of missiles, but reduce the flight time in order to balance to having the same range.
We'll take heavy missiles as an example. All skills lvl 5, the ship with the fastest rate of fire bonus, with the hml's with the fastest rate of fire, and with t2 range rigs fitted.
Now, once you've done the math and determined the fastest rate of fire possible, then you can increase the velocity of those missile types in order to allow the missiles to hit max distance just before the next volley fires, thus reducing waisted volleys, making missiles more effective in pvp because they have a faster engagement time, keeping them at the same range, keeping their velocity from being so high that it's rediculous, and also still allowing turrets to be more effective than missiles when they're in their optimal range because they still have a much faster engagement time than missiles.

Edit... 4) I forgot to say that heavy missiles, need to have their explosion velocity increased. They seem to be less effective against frigs as compared to cruise missiles and torps, even though their a smaller missile and should be more effective

Now, my other suggestions are towards missile boat ships themselves.
1) All missile boats except for stealth bombers should have the same dps for every missile type. So ships that have a bonus towards kinetic missiles should receive that bonus towards all missile types.
This change doesn't effect pvp because missile pilots rarely have the opportunity to pick and choose damage types during a pvp battle in order to find the best damage type, so they're typically limited to one damage type for the duration of the fight, and in most pvp the target ships are typically balanced to where they have close to equal resistances for all damage types...So the change of damage type doesn't matter anyway.

2) Other ships aren't as limited in their pvp capability, as a lot of missile boats are. Just look at Caldari's line-up. Their ships are limited to pve ships and pvp ships and typically the missiles are for pve and the turrets are for pvp, unless you stack a fleet of missile boats. So ships like ravens should have something given to them to allow them to be more effective in pvp. Hell, the raven is barely effective in pve, let alone pvp.

Thanks

Boost Defenders make them a midslot.

Only if they can add another midslot module to block incoming turret fire, and if you say TD, RSD, ECM, or mention a shield module will those work against missles too, so again no, you want to use defenders or a smart bomb to take out my missles then use a high slot.