EVE General Discussion

My English is not perfect. I would like to describe a similar. Window 2000 is release with many way for option and change. Windows XP it make the environ more simplistic for the people of normal type but it make more advance settings difficult for the power user.

I see many similar with EVE.
- Text is make big.
- Everything are push with Neocom
- icons of it are bulkly.
- Advance option are veil.

I am feel that EVE is try to make game more ease for many people but more and more it is look like simple toy for the children. How are you feel for this?

For clarity:

hmmm, I don't feel the UI is too simple.

More options for customization would be the ideal goal here.

Then you wouldn't have discussions about how simple or confusing the UI is because everyone could set it up how they like.. the more advanced players could make more advanced buttons larger/more readily available, while those that staunchly refuse to venture and explore what EVE has to offer can hide half of the UI so it doesn't clutter up their view of the gorgeous nebulae.

Crucible 1.1 Patch is a step in the right direction, but people who whine and gripe as if they will never update the Neocom again are very shortsighted.

Keep in mind also, they don't just spring these changes upon the users... These Neocom changes have been on the Test Server for awhile now and a lot of these comments could (and still can be) submitted to them in Feedback threads instead of making repeated Neocom threads in GD.

I agree... to say we have a change planned is not as reassuring as mentioning it is an improvement!

But just as with the American democratic society... you will never get what you want out of a President in one round of elections, you always have to vote for the next step closer to your Utopian ideal. One step at a time, in rotation with the other features, is the name of the game.

Merdi!

Why do you not comprendre? Every small step is slap for the face. It is rob the way to set option. It is call people stupid.
I am say I see how it alter it for new player to bring ease. Same time it steal from old player.

This is go one direction; when possible make two, by maintain one.

you are missing the point.

EVE is not becoming a game for children.

Making the font/icons big and the game easy to understand is in fact a move in exactly the opposite direction.

The babyboomers are retiring - they are for the most part somewhat computer-literate and have to fill the void left by quitting their day jobs somehow. This "somehow" is EVE.


leaving our parents (grandparents?) and all jokes aside - EVE is not very adult friendly atm in terms of time commitment.
Although this may help with PLEX sales I expect CCP to keep a keen eye on Blizzard and the many, many steps they have taken to make WoW grow up with its players who now have jobs & family and can no longer devote the hours they used to during school/college.Expect to be limited to 25 missions per day so the playing field is more leveled!

You just have to copy over the settings files in %UserProfile%\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\path_to_eve\settings, files are named core_user_accountid.dat and core_char_characterid.dat.

core_user__.dat and core_char__.dat are defaults for new accounts/characters iirc

Adjust settings for one character and then copy&rename that file for all other accounts/characters.
Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to automate this in the scripting language of your choice, so you can do it with the press of one button whenever you have changed your settings.

I played WoW a lot during this summer and still read the mmo-champion forums when I am bored..

When Blizzard introduced an entirely puggable faceroll mode for raids (along with an automated groupfinder) it wasn't the kiddies that wrote positively about it.

The most typical positive comment I encountered was along the lines of

"I used to raid 4-5 evenings the week in a very competitive guild during Classic/The Burning Crusade - but today I have wife/kids/job and simply can't make that sort of time commitment anymore.
I tried raiding with a casual guild but I just can't go afk every time my child cries/needs diapers changed/... without ruining the evening for 9/24 other people.
Thanks for allowing me to see the current content without having to follow a raid schedule or invest more than 1-2 hours at a time (and nobody complains if I have to leave mid-fight)."

I think that's one of the big trends in MMOs for the next several years and something to definitely keep an eye on.

first part of my post was a joke (babyboomers retiring and needing large fonts) ^^

second part (about people in their late twenties to mid forties) was serious.



I hear that a lot but my personal experience is that in the 10man casual raiding guild I joined (roster of 12-13 active players), three other players (who weren't RL friends of each other) had played EVE for more than a year each.

Was funny when I accidentally wrote "corp" instead of "guild" in chat on one occasion and my guild master was like "you don't happen to be an EVE player? "
GM actually still keeps his main training despite not having played EVE for ~2 years.

Might be coincidence, might be that ex-EVE players just write better recruitment ads for their WoW guilds - but I think (current) EVE players really like to exaggerate the differences between the two games.