EVE Information Portal

+1 for "the new interface sucks".

Seriously, does the person responsible for this ever PvP in anything but a huge blob? Because local chat is now MUCH more annoying to use.

Old system: minimize the local window to the bottom of the screen, where the title bar shows a constantly updating "local [x]" with the number of people in local. One click un-minimizes the window back to the exact spot where I had it, so it's quick and easy to check who is in local when the number changes.

New system: minimizing it puts it into the general "chat" icon, without even giving it a separate tab like every other chat window. This means that the number of people in local is not visible at all times, and I can't even hover over the icon like with other chat windows, I have to actually move the mouse over to the button and click it to pop up the sub-menu. And of course un-minimizing the window puts it back into the default location, NOT into the location where I had it before I minimized it.

End result: all of the same information is there, but it takes way more clicks and inconvenience to get at it. This is terrible interface design, so please restore the original "minimize" function. Add a second "minimize to sidebar" button if you really want to have this new function.

Wow what a mess, I had reservations about losing minimised windows off to the neocom but tbh it's worse than I ever expected

Why I cant remove useless ships/items buttons?
Why I cant remove chat button?
Why I cant remove char sheet button?
Why I cant move windows that are ALLWAYS open into a folder to clear up pointless clutter on the newcom?
Thats a pretty bad set of non-customisation of a "customisable" part of the ui already, also the option to have windows minimise to bottom of screen is even more inportant now that they go to hide amoungst so much pointless clutter in the neocom. Do all of the above and it should be a great improvement, as it is it's a massive step backwards.

Other stuff that's stupidly broken "improved"...
Agents now have even more stupidly large icons, please provide toggle for expanded/simple agents list view.
"Simplified" naming of missiles is stupid and as pointed out already not only makes no sense in character, but makes market searching more of a faff, now rather than help n00bs you'll just make them far more likely to keep buying torps/cruise to load onto their kestrel, gj on that.

Credit where it's due, condensed local view, extra slots and management of watch list are great changes, the rest of this patch in terms of ui would be better off undone and worked on for another 6 months...

I don't know if this is reported already so this is it:

In the People & Places menu under the Agents tab one have all the agents he worked for.
If you right click in that list you have a few options like "Set Destination" for example (just like before patch).
If you have a Folder under you have selected a few agents, right click is not working anymore.

Please restore Right Click functionality in agent folder list.

Thank you.
F

It is hard because team Optimal and team Namechangers strongly believe that even part of their customer base is against the change, Hillmar will still continue paying the monthly salaries from bottomless wallet of his.

Renaming = BIG FAIL!!!!!

renaming stuff is not as easy as it sounds ... and you did it WRONG!

E.g. afterburner and microwarp drives
Experimental AB and Upgraded MWD ... WTF
couldn't you just use one of those two, i.e. either experimental or upgraded but not BOTH, in addition to limited!

I haven't even looked at other things but I expect more FAIL there ...

edit: typing error

Please, restore the DATE in the NeoCom in Crucible 1.1.2. It has been a long day, can't always remember! I mean DANG!

Please, when the Wallet is flashing but we are already in the wallet, the icon should stop flashing. More DANG!

I am probably looking at this latest update from a different perspective than most of the posters here.

Some background:

I am a new player, less than five months experience. Admittedly, I am not particularly good.

I joined EVE along with my wife and three of our friends, all of us former WoW players. We left WoW because the game's developers had slowly destroyed the playing experience by "Dumbing Down" the game. When I signed off, I mentioned to Blizzard that they were probably using a good revenue model, but they had created a boring world, filled with players possessed of middling intelligence and relatively little skill.

Based on my previous experience, I fear there is a growing urge by EVE’s creators to increase player numbers, even if it means gutting the game’s soul.

Now, the new patch:

I am probably not competent to offer criticism of the new interface. That being said, I do not like the changes. Specifically, I prefer the old menus, the old shortcuts, and the minimized windows lining the bottom of the screen. I strongly agree with the posters that want to see the chat button removed entirely from the left hand side menu. From my perspective, the whole interface feels clumsy and cumbersome now, enough to significantly impact my enjoyment of the game.

I do not need a crutch to play EVE, nor do I want one. I do not need to see helpful hints like the word “accepted” under someone’s oversized portrait to know I have accepted a mission from him. These kinds of helpful hints are very similar to the early changes Blizzard began introducing to WoW, and in my opinion, this is a “Dumb Down”.

Regarding the renaming of the modules and missiles, I do not understand the motivation for the changes. I do not perceive an improvement in utility, and in fact, according to several more experienced players, there may actually be a reduction. These changes strike at the heart of EVE’s essence, the detail, the complexity, the character of the entire experience. The only motivation I can perceive behind making these changes is, unfortunately, a “Dumb Down”. I absolutely despise these particular changes, and I fear they are only the beginning of a horrible trend.

Last week's interface had all the tools necessary to effectively manage my affairs. If I get a vote, roll back the changes!

I apologize for being arrogant, but I have no desire to participate in a universe filled with people that lack the discipline or intelligence necessary to research the performance specifications of an afterburner, or for that matter, those that cannot use the colored tips of the various missiles to catalog their warheads.

I can adapt to the new interface, whatever it may ultimately be. I cannot support the changes to the very essence of the game, the new helpful hints, the shortcuts, or the generic naming conventions. These are “Dumb Downs” in my opinion.

I fully comprehend the fact that in the end, EVE is a business, and the investors undoubtedly wish for it to grow. I also know that the various development teams have worked diligently to bring these changes. I just happen to disapprove.

Small error needs fixing:

Previously "Items" was the last icon before undock with ships directly above it.

Somehow, these two got reversed. Years of players EVE, thousands of players - are used to original setting.

Can you get it right please?

Does this mean that everything will be merged into one large inventory without the option of having seperate categories? Because I would still like my ships to be seperate. I have a station that has 857 items in it not counting ships and Id really like to not have to hunt through that to find my ships. So im personally a big fan of either keeping a different window for ships or allowing us to have tabs or something for different types of items.

And as for the UI icons, being a person who favors words over pictographs (I have real trouble remember what an icon stands for so i always just end up hovering my mouse over it to read what it does) will we have the option of words instead of pictures? Because i would totally love to get rid of all these (to me) nonsensical pictures and just stick with lovely lovely words.

This sounds like something you probably would want to describe with great detail before even thinking about writing single line of code. I can already see myself dragging items from hangar 1 container A to hangar 3 container B by switching windows and clicking this and that + some 3rd button to make it happen. But go ahead.... if you make it as well as the neocom nothing can go wrong. Make sure that the containers minimize to undock button as it sounds like a good idea.