EVE General Discussion

So im sat looking at the threads and im asking myself, surley these people cant be this damn stupid, the more i read the more im convinced, yes your are inface that damn stupid.

Lets go back to 04 when lvl mission rats used to give 1mil bounties per bs killed and 500k per bc killed, i also remeber my 0.0 main, there was alot of pvp because our alts made the ISK needed to keep up the fleets.
Then came the mission nerf because a bunch of no job pvp elite monkeys screamed loud enough and ccp was stupid enough to listen to them. And so PvP dropped off because our alts made about 1/4 of what we used to make on a daily basis, so pvp drops off, more people are ratting, mining in null trying to make isk, getting ships down. It started to go downhill from there.

Then Goons came and royally ****** null and empire up rather quickly.

Then incursions came, awsum way to make isk, but griefer corps rose to get *faction* battleship kills for the kb's.

I am also noteing how the *elite* griefers and pvpers who routinley mess up empire corps are now complaining about the lack of players in eve online. Ironic no? They very thing you complain about, you caused to happen, let me outline it for you.

You grief new corps daily, these corps shut down
New players quit because they cant join any corp without being blown up (forced pvp)
Tax rate on npc corp raised because *elite* griefers and pvp complain about a lack of targets
Market prices for basic t2 modules and ships rocket because there is now a lack of indy corps because they are routinly screwed over. Now the russians control the market.
No new recruits for pvp corps in null because empire griefer alts are making new players quit
0.0 regions (apart from hubs) become deadzones, player numbers drop off
Again all caused by the *pvp corps* themselves.
Empire can be busy but alot of the time now its not
Recruitment channel used to 1500-2000 on the weekends fri-monday now its more like 300-600 - again, people are now quitting because they are sick of being blown up.
New pvp corps die out because *elite* corps dec them and take them camping non stop

A friend of mine started playing two weeks ago, he has been in 6 corps since and each one has had random decs levelled at it and 1bil in isk ransom demanded. Should this be allowed to continue?

And now you jihading incursions, why? Because you screwed up null sec with your empire alts actions? Your griefer corps actions? So u attack another section of eve that brings in new corps? New players? Well done, another way of destroying the game.

I know im gonnaa get flamed and trolled, probbaly war decced as a result of this post. but here is my message to the pvpers of eve

YOU complain about the lack of the new players, corps, 0.0 warefare, YOU routinley grief new corps and alliances that could grow into massivley new alliances and pvp corps.

YOU have only YOURSELF to BLAME for the fact EvE Online MMO is dieing, because YOU, the PVP COMMUNITY, are to blame, you hark on about carebears, go ahead, but everyone starts out, or 90% do as carebears, YOU are the ones DESTROYING this game, you want the game to change? YOU have to chaneg your HABITS AND GRIEFING WARS to sink this in.

You have only yourself to blame. CCP is not at fault, the game is not at fault, the pvpers of eve are at fault, you want null sec to become fun again? Get out of empire and get back into eve pvp as it was ment to be played. Because after 07, eve become a slow dieing train and YOU the ELITE PVP GRIEFERS are to blame.

Go ahead n flame, the more u doe it, the more u prove my point. Your just to stupid to see your actions in the short term massivley effect the game in the longterm, narrow minded individuals.

And before i am called a *bear* and a *newb* I was in the orginal CA/5/BOB and have lived in null since 04 to 2010 when id finally had enuff, i have pvped in fast gangs,.bombers the works, so dont throw childish insults

Hoff Out

TL;DR: CAREBEARS LEARN SOME DIPLOMACY AND GO TO NULLSEC and you will avoid ALL but the most hardcore griefers.

So your argument is based on a bunch of emotional sentiment on your part backed by nothing that is contradicted by all precedent until now.

oddly most the good griefers and 0.0 pilots i have flown with have familys and gfs, its the high sec carebears with no lives grinding away at incusrions and minning 23/7 that dont

Please quote where I said that.

But by all means, go on with your own pet theory that all null alliances got really mean to members all of the sudden around August 2010.

Incoherant ramblings.

try to grow up

That aside ive just sat n read the replys, have been offline playing aoe with two friends sat in my likving room for three hours.

That being said, damn me if i dont see immaturity on a scale, just stupid, really, i pity your families if your all like this in real life, its so pathetic, little keyboard warriors

U say i should unsub? I dont think so.

This was the point of the thread, i post truth, u call me a liar n flame the crap out of it n derail it, u just PROVED my point better than i ever could.

One of the questions ccp asks at fanfest, would u recomend eve to a friend?

Hell no, not because it isn't a ******* awesome game, it's just the playerbase has a large deal of asshats that seem to what to do nothing more than ruin the fun of anyone who isn't them. If this were done in pursuit of legitimate in-game competition, it would be one thing, but it is (a majority of the time) done for little more than lolz and tears

You're an idiot. Really, a complete numpty. To claim that if you mine, haul or trade you don't engage in PVP shows you have little to no understanding what Eve is and how it works.

Let me break it down to you in simple terms. If you are a trader trying to get into a market, you are trying to make whatever you are selling more attractive than the other guys, and the only way to do this in Eve is to make it cheaper than his. Therefore you're competing against another player so you make the ISK, not him. It's Player Vs. Player. Simples!

As for explosions, who the hell doesn't like explosions, and if not, what are you doing in Eve? The whole idea of the game is conflict, not to mention that almost everything in-game is directly connected to something, somewhere blowing up. If stuff isn't being blown up, no one needs minerals, no trade on the market because nothing ever needs to be replaced, no manufacturing because no one buys anything.

Let me put it this way. Eve is not, and never will be a single player game. If you don't like it, unsub and go play Hello Kitty online, where everything is fair, nobody can mess with you, and you become one of thousands of faceless players unable to forge your own path because it''s a souless ******* theme-park.

Hands of my Eve nublet, just cause you don't get it doesn't mean CCP needs to change.