Missions & Complexes

Playing for a month. Using a Rifter. Tried active and passive tanks. Got pretty good at approaching npc's on transverse. I don't get hit until I'm close.

Problem is that my weapons (autocannons and missiles I can use) hit best within 1000 so I orbit an npc close. But then even though I may take him out sometimes, there are always at least two others close by, and I die. Can't seem to separate them. Can't get them from far away. Don't bit too hard when I do hit.



Help!

1. 4800 m

2. My client must work different. They just kind of chuckle at me after one hit.

Pretty much this.

Generally it seems:

PVP-Short range weapons
PVE-Long range weapons

Thanks. That works a whole lot better!

Well if youve played for a month i have to ask do you do have small projectile weapons at 5 and if not then why?

I grinded standings for datacore farming in autocannon trasher with passive tank. T1 modules for tank not even named was all it took for both level 1-s and 2-s.

Barrage my friend. It has awesome range and a rack of autocannons on trasher just kills one npc a cycle. Fast and effective.

My trasher was fitted with 1 afterburner, 2 medium shield extenders in mids, 1 shield power relay in low and a power diagnostics system because i couldnt be arsed to train support skills for alt that never sees more combat. Biggest T2 autocannons 200-s i belive and its set for both level 1 and level 2 missions

The ship goes 500 something m/s, has enough tank to either tank all missions or very very rarely warp out. Range with barrage is round 7-ish km from optimal + falloff. Pops stuff in 1 or 2 cycles of guns. Even with barrage-s tracking penalty the ship had no problem hitting stuff.

Yes i know the optimal bonus on trasher would favor artilleries but really in level 1 and 2 missions the 7 year rate of fire on arties make missions go as slow as Forrest Gumps head. And Barrage S is not that expensive. Heck if you have the skills fro AC trasher i can donate you my old one with a cargo load of ammo as i dont use it anymore anyway.

Skills i trained from top of my head:

Small projectile 5
Motion Preediction 3
Gunnery 3
Small autocannon specialization 1
Destroyers 3
Shield upgrades 1
Energy grid upgrades 1
Afterburner 1

Total with worst imaginable remap (had int/mem remap for science skills) with no implants it was still heavily under 1 week. Round 4 days of training id say.

But if youve trained any other support skills in your month you might be able to switch something in the low slots for more damage or slap a tacking enhancer there or something to make things go boom even faster.

Sounds like you might be having a problem with your defensive tank. Most new players have a tendency to mix different types of defensive tanks which basically lowers your defense capacity in half. Also some forget to train up all related skills pertaining to the specific tank of choice.

Usually the progression would be Level 1 missions in Tech 1 Frigate or Destroyer. Level 2 missions in Tech 1 Cruiser or Tech 2 Frigate. Level 3 missions in Tech 1 Battlecruiser, Tech 2 Cruiser and Frigates. This is when you'll need to start fitting for increased resistance and start countering NPC EWAR. Level 4 missions in Tech 1 Battleships, Tech 2 Battlecruisers. These missions tend to have a lot of EWAR.

As a new player, it's easier to do a passive shield tank coupled with speed and short range weapons on a Rifter. You should have no problem completing level 1 and level 2 missions, especially if you continue to upgrade the fit and train up all related skills. Usually just turn on AB, keep it active and set orbit about 700m range with EMP S ammo loaded, target and shoot. Just remember to keep moving.

Basic Rifter Fit (upgrade when skill permits)

High slot:
3x 150MM Light Autocannon I
1x Rocket Launcher I

Mid slot:
1x 1MN Afterburner I
1x Medium Shield Extender I
1x Shield Recharger I

Low slot:
1x Shield Power Relay I
1x Power Diagnostic System I
1x PDS or SPR (depends on skills)

Rig slot:
1x Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
1x Small Core Defence Field Extender I
1x Small Core Defence Field Purger I

Always remember that the higher Meta level modules will have better attributes and are easier to fit, Of course they also cost more. Train up related skills and upgrade modules asap. Goal is to go with Tech 2 modules and eventually replace the Shield Recharger with an Invulnerability Field module and replace one of the low slot modules with a Gyrostabilizer or Tracking Enhancer module. A fully trained Tech 2 rigged and Faction fitted Rifter can complete most level 3 missions but it's not really time or ISK efficient.

The Evelopedia has a lot of Guides.

Have any better luck Sever?

Remember in the early days don't jump around skills pick one set and go for it. If you love guns stick with them and learn them they are really good, although missiles in the early stages are better for PVE. Even if you just get standard missile 2 or 3 and grab a Missile frig you will burn through L1 missions. Which kind of contridicts what I just said about sticking with skill set to start but nothing wrong with grabbing a few hours of missiles just to be able to make some isk for books etc. Once you get your gun skills up a little (gun skills take far more skill) and understand how the falloff and optimal work you will roll on.

Although if I were to do it over I would get destroyer 3 and get a Caldari gun boat and lay waste to L1s.

Hmm maybe I am confusing things LOL