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Shield Slave Sets-- Your Input Desired

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Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#61 - 2012-04-12 10:07:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Rel'k Bloodlor
I get it, its just the gulf between a BS or a BC and a cap and a super cap is so massive as is. so really sets for one should not work for the other, just like imps for weapons of a size.
Crystals doesn't work on caps because it would be over the top for any small sized fight, and its the inverse with slave being needed for any large scale cap fights. so we can ether boost shield caps in some way to catch them up to armour caps WITH slaves or you can take slaves away.
How else do you bring shields in line with out snapping them in half? Would people be mad? hell yes, but it would it be so bad if they got them back to use/sell elseware? anoying and bad. if every ones caps lost the HP all at once? well that would be nice.
I mostly low sec (well one I'm on at least) BUT i am looking for a way to use caps in my race and as is right now i won't whats the point of a caldari cap? one im as close to amarr as I am caldari why would i fly shield in cap hulls, why is there a change up at all? this game already has the worst balance I have ever played with in a game of any jonra ever (even worse than the Babylon 5 table top game and space hulk and zulu war yes even zulu war). But your free to just walk around it and fly whats better so balance is kinda moot, its all flavor. Im caldari and i would like to be able to fly my cap's with pride, and not just lose to amarr and gallente cap's, or get turned down from fleets, or even juts get stuck as odd man out the only phenex on the grid if you will doomed to be primary.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 

Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#62 - 2012-04-12 12:25:18 UTC
I generally agree that there should be both an active and passive implant set for each tanking style however the idea of mirror copies of each other is not ideal... Keeping some flavor or variety while still giving multiple competitive options is a much better solution.

In specific regards to the idea of a shield hp implant set... If there is to be a shield buffer implant set it should not be granting the same % value of a slave value. Reason for this is due to the innate shield regeneration shields have as many other posters have explained. A limited %, reaching no more than 30% would probably be the best bet.

As for an active armor tanking set... Again, it should not be a copy of the crystal set, instead i'd suggest a limited % increase with a paired effect of reducing cap usage of the armor rep modules. Possibly numbers closer to 20%/20%, rep/cap.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-04-12 22:05:20 UTC
I trained shield for a reason.

Don't want shield = armor.
Zangorus
Live Adult Entertainment
Federal Krab Office
#64 - 2012-04-14 10:42:17 UTC
I would like Crystals for armor, would only seem fair

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M1k3y Koontz
Speaker for the Dead
Shadow Cartel
#65 - 2012-04-14 13:18:52 UTC
* Will the introduction of S3 lead to the need to also introduce an armor crystal set?

If they do bring in S3, they should probably bring in an armor version of the crystals. just to keep it balanced.

* Should S3 replace crystal sets?

I never active tank, but then again I never liked them because the cap management limits the attention I can devote to the fight.

* Should the S3 be restricted to use on capital ships? (this will be a hotly contested one)

No! Armor slave sets can be used on capitals and subcaps so should S3's!

* How should S3 be introduced into the game? (LP store, exploration, rat drops, reverse engineering...etc)

Same way the Armor Slaves are, I've never found/used slave sets before so I wouldn't know.

* if introduced in the LP store, which store should sell it?

Pirate, one of the shield tanking ones

* What are some of the balancing issues this may present?

I guess shield capital's recharge time? That's the benefit of shield tanks though.

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.

Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#66 - 2012-04-14 15:26:04 UTC
we dont need another broken mechanics
Salo Aldeland
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2012-04-14 16:01:53 UTC
S3 is not only a buff to shield buffers, it's also a buff to passive shield recharge. This may turn out to be just fine with capital ships, I dunno, I don't fly 'em. But it certainly isn't needed in sub-caps.