These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Why people choose High sec
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
pussnheels
Viziam
#121 - 2012-01-23 10:01:20 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Lord Zim wrote:
Oh look, someone doesn't understand that SOV etc (and shinies such as JBs) actually costs money.

I'm literally shocked.

well you have CCP sanctioned bots for that don't you , and since you goons/ cheaters even refuse to report bots .... enough said

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2012-01-23 10:05:45 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm not saying we're running a not-for-profit organization here


Why not? Shouldn't everyone receive equal parts of the profits seeing as nothing an alliance accomplishes is done alone?

We've got upgraded space, we've got replacement ships being moved to whereever we're staging from, we have a huge platform set in motion to support us actually living out there, and we've got fights. I'd say that's "receive equal parts of the profits".

Pillowtalk wrote:
Why should any of the higher ups get a stash of money so big that they could play eve for free for the next 50 years?

What do you think the common goon would do with that amount of money? Yep. **** it away on dumb ****. What is it being spent on? The space, the people, and a warchest for when times are leaner.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2012-01-23 10:06:30 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Oh look, someone doesn't understand that SOV etc (and shinies such as JBs) actually costs money.

I'm literally shocked.

well you have CCP sanctioned bots for that don't you , and since you goons/ cheaters even refuse to report bots .... enough said

"Don't shoot" != "don't report". Hope that helps.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#124 - 2012-01-23 10:10:21 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:


I'm not saying we're running a not-for-profit organization here


Why not? Shouldn't everyone receive equal parts of the profits seeing as nothing an alliance accomplishes is done alone?

Why should any of the higher ups get a stash of money so big that they could play eve for free for the next 50 years?




Wallstreet anyone? And you guys portray yourselves as anti-establishment. lol


generous capital and supercapital subsidies, full ship reimbursement, PLEX for active logistics and FC personnel

we reward participation, not mere membership

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2012-01-23 10:10:29 UTC
how the hell would a 'no bot reporting' policy be enforced anyway?
Would Mittani get a phonecall in the middle of the night from a "Mr. JOHNSON"?
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#126 - 2012-01-23 10:12:05 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Oh look, someone doesn't understand that SOV etc (and shinies such as JBs) actually costs money.

I'm literally shocked.

well you have CCP sanctioned bots for that don't you , and since you goons/ cheaters even refuse to report bots .... enough said

"Don't shoot" != "don't report". Hope that helps.



Any particular reason for a 'Don't shoot' policy other than the fact the bot might belong to a friend of yours Twisted

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2012-01-23 10:13:42 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Any particular reason for a 'Don't shoot' policy other than the fact the bot might be a friend of yours Twisted

Simple, it'll become a "he said she said" shitfest. There's more than enough **** to deal with on a daily basis without the added drama of **** like that, better to let CCP, you know, enforce their game.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#128 - 2012-01-23 10:14:26 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Oh look, someone doesn't understand that SOV etc (and shinies such as JBs) actually costs money.

I'm literally shocked.

well you have CCP sanctioned bots for that don't you , and since you goons/ cheaters even refuse to report bots .... enough said

"Don't shoot" != "don't report". Hope that helps.



Any particular reason for a 'Don't shoot' policy other than the fact the bot might belong to a friend of yours Twisted


if you don't get the reasoning behind a "don't fuck goons/allies" rule you should probably stay in high-sec with all the other white knights

all alliances have rules like that

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Long John Silver
Doomheim
#129 - 2012-01-23 10:15:12 UTC
I find the gameplay in empire space to be more subtle and tricksy. In null, the red/blue thing makes things very black and white (well you know what I mean). In empire space, you never know who you're going to encounter next, the vast majority of players will leave you alone, but every so often... and when they do, the tricks adopted by pilots to outwit each other can be very subtle, or with a more calculated risk/reward approach considered around the game mechanics.

That said, the infantile ravings in local at the trade and mission hubs are tedious at best, but get away from these and a very enjoyable game can be played.

**Long John Silver **| Pirate Alt and Forum Troll.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#130 - 2012-01-23 10:16:25 UTC
Andski wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Oh look, someone doesn't understand that SOV etc (and shinies such as JBs) actually costs money.

I'm literally shocked.

well you have CCP sanctioned bots for that don't you , and since you goons/ cheaters even refuse to report bots .... enough said

"Don't shoot" != "don't report". Hope that helps.



Any particular reason for a 'Don't shoot' policy other than the fact the bot might belong to a friend of yours Twisted


if you don't get the reasoning behind a "don't fuck goons/allies" rule you should probably stay in high-sec with all the other white knights

all alliances have rules like that



So your admitting Alliances/Friendships with bot users ?

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2012-01-23 10:16:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Pillowtalk
Lord Zim wrote:
Pillowtalk wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
I'm not saying we're running a not-for-profit organization here


Why not? Shouldn't everyone receive equal parts of the profits seeing as nothing an alliance accomplishes is done alone?

We've got upgraded space, we've got replacement ships being moved to whereever we're staging from, we have a huge platform set in motion to support us actually living out there, and we've got fights. I'd say that's "receive equal parts of the profits".

Pillowtalk wrote:
Why should any of the higher ups get a stash of money so big that they could play eve for free for the next 50 years?

What do you think the common goon would do with that amount of money? Yep. **** it away on dumb ****. What is it being spent on? The space, the people, and a warchest for when times are leaner.



Sir, you're organization is sitting on enormous sums of cash and at the same time manipulating markets to make further profits on the backs of those with a fraction of your wealth.

So getting back to the topic at hand, I just mined for several hours for an implant I want. I paid nothing to corporate overseer's, I didn't have to concern myself with being called away while I mined, and I didn't have to help pay for some internet glory seeking foul mouthed chuckle head's plex for the next 50 years.

I am the captain of my own ship. Goons aren't even flying their own ships as you have pointed out. :)

That is why I am in high-sec.

Don't violence me bro!
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#132 - 2012-01-23 10:18:35 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
Any particular reason for a 'Don't shoot' policy other than the fact the bot might be a friend of yours Twisted

Simple, it'll become a "he said she said" shitfest. There's more than enough **** to deal with on a daily basis without the added drama of **** like that, better to let CCP, you know, enforce their game.



So you'll grief the rest of New Eden for lulz, but won't shoot at known bots in your own space incase of a diplomatic incident, OK Roll

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#133 - 2012-01-23 10:21:28 UTC
i wish i could mine veldspar for +4s...
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2012-01-23 10:22:18 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
and I didn't have to help pay for some internet glory seeking foul mouthed chuckle head's plex for the next 50 years.

If you think mittani's foul mouthed, then you seriously haven't seen the **** I manage to spew forth on a regular basis.

Pillowtalk wrote:
I am the captain of my own ship. Goons aren't even flying their own ships as you have pointed out. :)

What constitutes "your own ship"? Because I buy it, I just choose to reward the alliance with putting it back on the line. vOv

Professor Alphane wrote:
So you'll grief the rest of New Eden for lulz, but won't shoot at known bots in your own space incase of a diplomatic incident, OK Roll

Yes. There's no "diplomatic incident" when shooting ice miners in gallente space, whereas shooting blues usually involves someone has to talk to the guy who got shot, evidence has to be waded through, and it's still not 100% sure we're looking at an actual bot and not just someone autistic. And if it's not clear it's a bot, reimbursements have to be handed out.

Or we can just say "report the ones you think are actually bots, don't be a ****** like that test dude who reported everyone because he was a dickless ****", and let CCP deal with it.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#135 - 2012-01-23 10:23:10 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:
Sir, you're organization is sitting on enormous sums of cash and at the same time manipulating markets to make further profits on the backs of those with a fraction of your wealth.

So getting back to the topic at hand, I just mined for several hours for an implant I want. I paid nothing to corporate overseer's, I didn't have to concern myself with being called away while I mined, and I didn't have to help pay for some internet glory seeking foul mouthed chuckle head's plex for the next 50 years.

I am the captain of my own ship. Goons aren't even flying their own ships as you have pointed out. :)

That is why I am in high-sec.


Actually, anyone dumb enough to mine in our space gets tax-free refineries and they can do whatever the hell they want with their ores/minerals. Goons fly their own ships.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2012-01-23 10:23:56 UTC
Professor Alphane wrote:
So your admitting Alliances/Friendships with bot users ?

This is the kind of question you'd see in one of those press rooms in the west wing.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#137 - 2012-01-23 10:27:48 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:

Yes. There's no "diplomatic incident" when shooting ice miners in gallente space, whereas shooting blues usually involves someone has to talk to the guy who got shot, evidence has to be waded through, and it's still not 100% sure we're looking at an actual bot and not just someone autistic. And if it's not clear it's a bot, reimbursements have to be handed out.

Or we can just say "report the ones you think are actually bots, don't be a ****** like that test dude who reported everyone because he was a dickless ****", and let CCP deal with it.



Very responsible and commendable of you I'm sure.

Well either that or people higher up than you want bots to go unharrased in your space and are just using that for an excuse, ship reimbusment, don't make me lol, like paying for a couple of ships is going to hurt your 'warchest'.

Goons known for there fanaftical hatred of everything not Goon, showing neutrality to bot users, makes you think doesn't it.

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#138 - 2012-01-23 10:28:46 UTC
Pillowtalk wrote:


Sir, you're organization is sitting on enormous sums of cash and at the same time manipulating markets to make further profits on the backs of those with a fraction of your wealth.


I'd call this winning in EVE, to be honest, and applaud Goonswarm for playing well.

.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#139 - 2012-01-23 10:30:52 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Professor Alphane wrote:
So your admitting Alliances/Friendships with bot users ?

This is the kind of question you'd see in one of those press rooms in the west wing.



Thats not a denial Mr President Blink

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Tore Vest
#140 - 2012-01-23 10:32:16 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
i wish i could mine veldspar for +4s...

mmm... veldspar P

No troll.