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Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#21 - 2012-01-22 13:54:46 UTC
Andski wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.


camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp


Who said anything about camping gates, also you're a goon Roll
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-01-22 13:55:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.

The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's


Those are the alliances that fall apart the second a more powerful entity looks at them crosswise.

saltrock0000 wrote:
People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's


ship replacement programs? what an innovative idea, if only we had thought of that and implemented a comprehensive ISK compensation program for strat ops and a partial compensation program for roaming/solo PvP

oh wait, we have, and we're far from the first alliance to do that!


And then look at the 15% tax needed to run that "partial" programme. Roll

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Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-01-22 13:56:38 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
Andski wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.


camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp


Who said anything about camping gates, also you're a goon Roll


These are the relatively safe operations by the goons they will re-imburse for ship losses, lol.

You will defend our assests *whip crack*

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-01-22 14:00:31 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
Andski wrote:
Salicaz wrote:
All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.


camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp


Who said anything about camping gates, also you're a goon Roll


These are the relatively safe operations by the goons they will re-imburse for ship losses, lol.

You will defend our assests *whip crack*


lol you talk some rubbish...
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-01-22 14:03:27 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:

lol you talk some rubbish...


Maybe, but better than the depressing propoganda drivel that the likes of Goons make people suffer.

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#26 - 2012-01-22 14:06:10 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.

Lol
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#27 - 2012-01-22 14:06:58 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:


You will defend our assests *whip crack*


have you ever actually, you know, flown with the goons, talked to one, or even have any clue what their culture is like?
Vyl Vit
#28 - 2012-01-22 14:07:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
Tippia wrote:
So, basically, people choose highsec because they don't know any better?

Sounds reasonable…

Nice try. No cigar. Conveniently overlook the gist is returning from 0.0 to have fun playing a game, not staying out there to suck up to a handful of bigshots that own you coming and going. We rarely hear this side of the story, and naturally you'd take a dump on it. And to think I put your name in nomination for the Nobel for Economics this year. Pfft!

"culture" as in Goon culture. I think that's the funniest thing I've seen on the forums so far. The Goons have their own culture. If it's the kind that grows on cheese, I'd believe it. Culture...they've managed to log onto an MMO sandbox, hit a few keyboard keys and the result is they've created a culture. Too much. And, too bad Gideon didn't pass out dictionaries.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-01-22 14:09:58 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:

lol you talk some rubbish...


Maybe, but better than the depressing propoganda drivel that the likes of Goons make people suffer.


Seriously, you have no clue...
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-01-22 14:14:13 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Andski wrote:
saltrock0000 wrote:
0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.

The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's


Those are the alliances that fall apart the second a more powerful entity looks at them crosswise.

saltrock0000 wrote:
People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's


ship replacement programs? what an innovative idea, if only we had thought of that and implemented a comprehensive ISK compensation program for strat ops and a partial compensation program for roaming/solo PvP

oh wait, we have, and we're far from the first alliance to do that!


And then look at the 15% tax needed to run that "partial" programme. Roll


ahahahaha taxes

son, we have 60+ tech moons, taxes just keep the wallet healthy

fyi we paid out 120b in "partial" reimbursements in december

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2012-01-22 14:15:15 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Tippia wrote:
So, basically, people choose highsec because they don't know any better?

Sounds reasonable…

Nice try. No cigar. Conveniently overlook the gist is returning from 0.0 to have fun playing a game, not staying out there to suck up to a handful of bigshots that own you coming and going.
Yeah, no. That would work if all these people actually tried out not-highsec, but they don't. They just stay in highsec because they hear stories like this and don't actually go check for themselves.

They choose it because they don't know better.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-01-22 14:15:26 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Culture...they've managed to log onto an MMO sandbox, hit a few keyboard keys and the result is they've created a culture. Too much. And, too bad Gideon didn't pass out dictionaries.


the culture comes from somethingawful dot com, maybe you have heard of that site? it's where most of goonwaffe comes from!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-01-22 14:17:01 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:

lol you talk some rubbish...


Maybe, but better than the depressing propoganda drivel that the likes of Goons make people suffer.


Seriously, you have no clue...


Enlighten us all then. Pretty redundant statement otherwise.

Or is all your capability just tourettes like water torture statements with no real content?

I'd ask your Goon puppet masters to deliver some more fish into your diet, it might improve brain activity. Or stop them from using the slave altering brainwashing, seems to adversely effect capabilties.

Bounty Hunting - Soon (™): Retribution (Winter 2012)

It's just criminal - Smuggling
Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-01-22 14:17:19 UTC
Aruken Marr wrote:
Any more, for any more?


Both you and the OP are right, chose to quote you as you have the definitive 'other side of the argument' going on there.

Fact is - there are some SERIOUSLY wrong alliances out there. You wind up in one, your game pleasure tumbles massively. You wind up in one first time you venture out almost certainly your gonna get a tainted view of NULL.

Personally ive had good Null experiences but a couple times ive landed paying for someone elses sub and ships.

Way of the ... Galaxy.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-01-22 14:19:22 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:

lol you talk some rubbish...


Maybe, but better than the depressing propoganda drivel that the likes of Goons make people suffer.


Seriously, you have no clue...


Enlighten us all then. Pretty redundant statement otherwise.

Or is all your capability just tourettes like water torture statements with no real content?

I'd ask your Goon puppet masters to deliver some more fish into your diet, it might improve brain activity. Or stop them from using the slave altering brainwashing, seems to adversely effect capabilties.


seems that all the fish in your diet has caused brain damage, oh well

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-01-22 14:20:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
Vyl Vit wrote:
"culture" as in Goon culture. I think that's the funniest thing I've seen on the forums so far. The Goons have their own culture. If it's the kind that grows on cheese, I'd believe it. Culture...they've managed to log onto an MMO sandbox, hit a few keyboard keys and the result is they've created a culture. Too much. And, too bad Gideon didn't pass out dictionaries.


You too...

Listen. The ridiculous politics and drama is probably what makes sov warefare fun. It's goons that make it hilarious. You've either spent too much time on the butt end of the joke to get it, or your sense of humour is hopelessly barren.

People take this game and themselves far too seriously.

Grumpy Owly wrote:

I'd ask your Goon puppet masters to deliver some more fish into your diet, it might improve brain activity. Or stop them from using the slave altering brainwashing, seems to adversely effect capabilties.


That goes for you too. Also I ******* love tuna...
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#37 - 2012-01-22 14:20:57 UTC
Andski wrote:


seems that all the fish in your diet has caused brain damage, oh well


Mercury's a *****.
Weiland Taur
The Icarus Expedition
Solyaris Chtonium
#38 - 2012-01-22 14:22:39 UTC

What would happen if someone made a post that did not include blanket statements that lump all null-sec alliances into the same cookie cutter "oh noes the evil goonsies touched me again and made me mow the lawn" form while painting a picture of a highsec paradise where all the real players merrily graze on organic grass and drink purple milk?

I live in null and i've lived in highsec. Broken mechanics in both and good and bad players in both. Play your game.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#39 - 2012-01-22 14:24:19 UTC
Weiland Taur wrote:

What would happen if someone made a post that did not include blanket statements that lump all null-sec alliances into the same cookie cutter "oh noes the evil goonsies touched me again and made me mow the lawn" form while painting a picture of a highsec paradise where all the real players merrily graze on organic grass and drink purple milk?

Then people would get a nuanced and realistic picture of what's going on in the game, and we can't have that.

It would surely make the sun explode or some such.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#40 - 2012-01-22 14:24:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Weiland Taur wrote:

What would happen if someone made a post that did not include blanket statements that lump all null-sec alliances into the same cookie cutter "oh noes the evil goonsies touched me again and made me mow the lawn" form while painting a picture of a highsec paradise where all the real players merrily graze on organic grass and drink purple milk?

I live in null and i've lived in highsec. Broken mechanics in both and good and bad players in both. Play your game.


what boggles my mind is how people can hate on the goons, and then in the same breath accuse nullsec alliances of treating their members like pawns through things like CTAs. It becomes so obvious they really don't get nullsec, or who stands for what out there.