EVE General Discussion

Due to my schedule I run missions in hi-sec during the week and party in null during the weekends.

I feel that Hi-sec is essential to someones success in the game, ISK wise of course. Put it this way, the majority of the EVE population live either partially or entirely in Hi-Sec. Because most people live in Hi-sec there is more demand for goods there thus increasing prices. That's why Jita is the economic hub of the game and some random low-sec system isn't.

However what is the point of living exclusively in Hi-Sec? The only thing you can really do is make money... to make more money. If you want to do that It seems much more logical to simply stop playing the game and actually try to make money in the real world. Reward without risk is usually boring. If I don't break the monotony of mission running by going to null I would probably stop playing the game altogether.

PVP space is generally a lot more fun, anyone who has been in a legitimate PVP battle (having your carebear crap blown up by some suicide ganker doesn't count) is a ton of fun. Even though it make take hours to find a good fight, the adrenaline rush is unmatched in gaming. Nothing is more exciting than a moment where millions of ISKies worth of hard work can be lost with one mistake.

But like I said, usually to get something good requires waiting for a long time, unless you decide to run with 300 man blobs that are looking for other blobs of the same size (or just hunting small gangs). But to me, a lagfest where there isn't much risk unless you decide to make yourself primary isn't really that exciting. Gang PVP is probably the best form of PVP in the game. Solo is too difficult and Blobs are too easy. No more than 30 people is a lot more fun as there is still a risk but your going to be able to take on most of the stuff you find.

Personally I feel a healthy balance of Both Hi-sec and Low/Null is the best way to enjoy the game. You can make money and have fun.

Pretty ******* bitter right there

^^Seconded^^

LOL!

Does anyone still actually believe that, or is Tian Nu just trolling?

On the off-chance of seriousness:

CONCORD is not there to protect you, they are there to punish people who aggress you without legal right to do so, after the fact. This is exactly how it should be, imho.

Retribution against criminals =/= protection of innocents, nor should it.

Especially given that almost everything one can do in EVE involves player-vs-player competition, then there are arguably no such thing as "innocents" in EVE, once they've been playing more than a few months.

I found I played more when I was in highsec. I was in 0.0 for nearly 2 years, and I would log on to rat, roam, and that was it. Ratting got old really fast, roaming was so boring it brought tears to my eyes (yay 1 pvp battle every 2 hours!), and getting to and from highsec was such a chore that I really didn't feel like doing it anymore, so I just stayed out in 0.0 space.

Eventually I took a break from the game for a few months and when I came back, my alliance had crumbled. So, I left my corp for an NPC one and floated back to highsec. Suddenly I was playing the game regularly. Missions were enjoyable. Lowsec PvP was fun. Mining really wasn't so bad out here. I could easily buy new ship parts and ships without having to either scour my 0.0 area looking for an item on sale or beg someone to transport it out to me.

In the end, I realized highsec was just more fun for me. Should that ever quit being the case because CCP decides to push folks out, since I have already tried 0.0 and know I won't like it, I'll likely give WH space a shot. If that doesn't work out, then I suppose I'll have outstayed my welcome in EVE and move on different (but likely not greener) pastures.

tl;dr- lived in 0.0 for 2 years, didn't like it. I like highsec. The day I can't play in highsec, I'll find something else to do. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.

I've heard both sides of this sort of thing, and 99 times out of 100 what happened is the "non-PvP" types didn't listen to advice about flying reasonable ships, showed up in something expensive they couldn't afford to lose because they thought a faction fit BS would make them uber, then ducked out of subsequent fights because they didn't listen to fleet commands, got killed, and now "have to make money and can't afford to fight". Usually this ends with them JC-ing to hi-sec to run missions.

This is precisely the sort of thing that kills alliances moving out into null. If you don't want to be 'told how to play', then by all means stay in hisec and don't sign up for team efforts. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, you just have to recognize what it is you want to do rather than what everyone says you should.

I play high sec when I feel like it.

I play null sec when I feel like it.

I determine my online time and I determine what kind of corporation or alliance I join. I can ***** and moan like a little **** about other alliances as much as I want. In the end it's my own choice as what kind of group I want to belong to.

I made for myself the choice to stay as far away as possible from Goons simply because I don't like their playstyle.
It doesn't make their playstyle less or more than my own playstyle but to my taste it's too inhumane, even when looked at it purely as a game. but that is my personal vision to it.

In general there are places for almost any type of gamestyle in null sec alliances. But it means that you have to set yourself passt some misconceptions created by a certain few alliances which you heard about more than others.

I have been living in null sec on and off since 2004. Sometimes with a shorter and sometimes with a longer period of time being in high sec.
The amount of presure some people tend to feel as towards CTA's and such is in many cases also presure people tend to place on themselves.
Their own feeling they MUST attend is greater than the alliance actually puts on their members.
But instead of looking at themselves it's easier to push forward that you are pressed into that many CTA's and ops.

So there is a lot of discussion about stuff, but the reality is that a lot of people are using false pretences as why they do only high sec or only null sec.
Some are fully aware they are just lying through their teeth and others just don't have a clue.

This doesn't prove anything except give a snapshot of who's where (character-wise, notwithstanding which players are controlling which characters besides their main.).

Again, explicit answer needed:

Question: (posed to all active accounts >30d old) Are you/do you have an alt/alts, and what do use these alts for?

I'm not unique. In fact, most of the people I talk to in nullsec do pretty much the same thing I am.

It's not my problem if you don't believe me, you're the one with your head in the sand. vOv