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Why people choose High sec
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Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#181 - 2012-01-23 17:30:55 UTC
Kessiaan wrote:
Nullsec is hard to get into.

My first experience with nullsec was in my mining days. We set up a POS in a dead-end system we rented, and we were too scared of OMG BUBBLES to actually leave the system. And when hostiles did show up and we actually tried to fight we'd get annihilated because we had no idea what we were doing (this was back when nano gangs were untouchable by anything except another nano gang). I don't even remember where we were, I was such a noob then :D. It was terrible and I came back to highsec.

Gave up mining, got into FW, got into pirating. Lived in lowsec for a while.

My second experience was with ATLAS down in Omist. It was pretty much what the OP described. Doesn't help that Bobby was a giant **** either. I hated it, swore off sov. warfare forever, and went back to lowsec.

My current experience is in Stain NPC nullsec with my current corp and I love it. It's pretty much just like lowsec only with much better pve options, no sentry guns (which just get in the way in lowsec after your sec. status drops under -5), stealth bombers can actually do something useful, and good intel channels so I don't wind up in a bubble I don't want to be in.

Conclusions: Your experience is null is dictated mostly by your corp and somewhat by the space you live in. So be choosy when picking both.


This NPC Null ft but since I have a very limited time now I stay in high and carebear
Skorpynekomimi
#182 - 2012-01-23 17:38:57 UTC
I'm currently in highsec because:
- I have no ******* time to EVE. Work, sleep, xbox time. There's a few hours in between. Not really enough to commit to null right now.

- Null is dangerous and complex. I don't know what I'm doing. I don't like knowing what I'm doing, especially when my medical clone is down in highsec in case I get podded while picking up my lowsec PI.

- Training up an alt means I need to be able to pick up skillbooks quickly, and use my market skills to sell off any I pick up in error.

- Politics. My stuff went missing due to a big move. My JC is a good few jumps out from my alliance's sov space. NULL jumps, where I might run into a bubble or gatecamp.

- Standings grind for PoS anchoring. Since my alliance is mostly on a different schedule to me, and large enough that I have no hope in hell of getting standings, I need my alt to keep a PoS open for my industrial stuff.

Economic PVP
Rune Scorpio
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#183 - 2012-01-23 19:20:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Rune Scorpio
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Moon mining has horribly unbalanced nullsec pvp. Remove moon mining and make people play eve to earn isk again so that the blobbers have to run around in pve ships and get shot at too.

Why when we can run incursions instead?


Didnt realize logging in and collecting tech for a few billion a month compared to flying expensive ships and killing things. Though I guess the people who benefit from that nonsense of course will b***h and moan about that getting nerfed or removed. Who wants to play a game thats balanced? One that noobs can join and say oh wow the economy isnt completely unbalanced to the large alliances that dont have to grind for isk.
Lets just let the tech moon alliances sit there and have enough isk every month they can buy 8000+ plex for filling their pos with fuel.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#184 - 2012-01-23 19:23:21 UTC
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Didnt realize logging in and collecting tech for a few billion a month compared to flying expensive ships and killing things.

Haven't been outside of hisec much, then, have you?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Rune Scorpio
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#185 - 2012-01-23 19:27:32 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Didnt realize logging in and collecting tech for a few billion a month compared to flying expensive ships and killing things.

Haven't been outside of hisec much, then, have you?


yeah actually. I have alts in wormhole space, null and lowsec. Null happens to be the worst cus its 100 man fleets blobbing all day long with hurricanes. But what do I know?
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#186 - 2012-01-23 19:39:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicolo da'Vicenza
Rune Scorpio wrote:
what do I know?

you kind of answered that question already when you accused a guy from Cascade Imminent of being rich off tech moon income

haven't been out of hisec much
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2012-01-23 19:49:12 UTC
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Didnt realize logging in and collecting tech for a few billion a month compared to flying expensive ships and killing things.

Haven't been outside of hisec much, then, have you?


yeah actually. I have alts in wormhole space, null and lowsec. Null happens to be the worst cus its 100 man fleets blobbing all day long with hurricanes. But what do I know?

Funny, I'm not seeing "100 man fleets blobbing all day long with hurricanes". In fact, I'm having problems seeing any place where there are more than 30 in total outside of hisec. Granted, nullsec is looking more lively than pre-crucible, but it's still no spring chicken.

As for the whole "logging in and collecting tech for a few billion a month", you do realize that it's a task which doesn't end in them having tech to swim in, yes? It's something they do for the greater good, and is but a cog in the whole nullsec empire machine at least I call home.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#188 - 2012-01-23 19:55:10 UTC
but guys tech moons are literally isk per month no effort or anything required, also everyone can have all of them because sharing = caring
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#189 - 2012-01-23 19:57:16 UTC
Go then, there are other MMO's than these

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Rune Scorpio
Fixers Corporation
Pillars of Liberty
#190 - 2012-01-23 20:04:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Rune Scorpio
Lord Zim wrote:
Funny, I'm not seeing "100 man fleets blobbing all day long with hurricanes". In fact, I'm having problems seeing any place where there are more than 30 in total outside of hisec. Granted, nullsec is looking more lively than pre-crucible, but it's still no spring chicken..


Yeah good thing they removed the exploration nerf so people that want to actually play eve have a reason to return to nullsec right? Now that the isk for running sites can once again compare to people holding tech moons.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#191 - 2012-01-23 20:11:52 UTC
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Yeah good thing they removed the exploration nerf so people that want to actually play eve have a reason to return to nullsec right? Now that the isk for running sites can once again compare to people holding tech moons.

Why when we can run incursions instead?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#192 - 2012-01-23 20:16:16 UTC
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Yeah good thing they removed the exploration nerf so people that want to actually play eve have a reason to return to nullsec right? Now that the isk for running sites can once again compare to people holding tech moons.

It is? I wouldn't know, I don't rat.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#193 - 2012-01-23 20:38:07 UTC
Herold Oldtimer wrote:
This post derailed pretty quickly didn't it.

I choose high-sec because that is what I have time for.


interestingly, i choose nullsec because thats what *I* have time for. Income is higher, so I only have to rat every couple weeks or so, and its a lot easier to find people to shoot. My time is much more efficient.
saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#194 - 2012-01-23 22:13:20 UTC
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Moon mining has horribly unbalanced nullsec pvp. Remove moon mining and make people play eve to earn isk again so that the blobbers have to run around in pve ships and get shot at too.




Now this is a very good point indeed!!!

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#195 - 2012-01-23 22:25:15 UTC
Note: haven't even read the OP, just the title.Big smile


I live in HS because that is where my corp is and I don't think a Null corp would appreciate my regular 2-3month periods of unsubbed.

And, since I have fun, why does it matter. Maybe when I have my own income and get bored with HS, I'll move to low/null.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#196 - 2012-01-23 22:30:07 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:


This is a game people should paly it for fun



Definitions of fun vary from person to person. Some people have fun telling other people what to do.
CaptainFalcon07
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#197 - 2012-01-23 23:00:51 UTC  |  Edited by: CaptainFalcon07
I've been to nullsec for a while, but never really found it particularly fun. PVP involves massive blobs with soul-crushing lag.

Most fleet fights involve locking primary and secondary, then press F1 and watch the targets or you get blown up. It becomes even more boring when you have turn off the effects just to mitigate the lag.

It was rather hard to sustain pvp if your alliance didn't reinburse you or too a long time to do so. I found that I barely barely broke even with the isk i made ratting and the ships I've lost.

I just found the nullsec experience rather boring, its just not for me. I'm sure there are people who do enjoy it.

I live in a Wormhole now, no ridiculous blue coalitions, no local, high risk but high reward, and takes lots of effort to do things but its worth it.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2012-01-23 23:03:35 UTC
CaptainFalcon07 wrote:
I've been to nullsec for a while, but never really found it particularly fun. PVP involves massive blobs with soul-crushing lag.

They've fixed this.

CaptainFalcon07 wrote:
It becomes even more boring when you have turn off the effects just to mitigate the lag.

That's something you can fix with a better computer.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Caldari Acolyte
Shark Enterprises
#199 - 2012-01-24 00:33:32 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:
Rune Scorpio wrote:
Moon mining has horribly unbalanced nullsec pvp. Remove moon mining and make people play eve to earn isk again so that the blobbers have to run around in pve ships and get shot at too.




Now this is a very good point indeed!!!


Lol RMTers would have a **** fit, you might be on to something there.
Holy One
Privat Party
#200 - 2012-01-24 00:54:02 UTC
The number one reason people stay in high sec is because the logistics of living in null sec when not in a blob alliance are too time consuming and too expensive to be worth the hassle.

:)