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How to make mining more fun
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Jade Mitch
A Problem with Authority
#21 - 2012-01-23 07:34:18 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
What the I don't even... grow a pair.


As much as I agree...grow a brain and say something creative as opposed to the usual "grow a pair" that you say in each-and-every-freaking-post.

I have no objection with you badgering the witless.
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-01-23 09:05:48 UTC
silly idea, people wont mine less, they will mine just as much and absolutely flood the market.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-01-23 10:22:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Scatim Helicon
Jade Mitch wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:

Mining is repetitive and boring (this also has a lot to do with why its so heavily botted)

The way to fix mining is to change it so it isn't repetitive and boring, not by crashing the mineral market even more than it is now whilst retaining the repetition and boredom.

Wouldn't you agree though that shorter repetitions are more fun than longer ones?


Its not as though Average Joe Miner is going to stop spending so many hours mining if you give him more minerals. He'll continue to mine just as long as he always did, he'll just have more ore at the end of it. And since everyone else would be doing the same and the value of the ore would be dropping, he has to mine for just as long simply to keep up.

Now, if you want to talk about new ways of mining, ways that reward more player input and attention compared to the current 'warp in, target rock, fall asleep at keyboard' method, and combine that with a solution to the two problems of drone region alloys and loot melting, then we're getting somewhere.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.
Blatant Forum Alt
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-01-23 12:03:04 UTC
Here's a Blatant Forum Alt idea for you:

Add flash to the ingame browser, and other bits and pieces to bring it to the same level as real broswers. Even goons would mine if they could play crappy flash mini games at the same time.
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
#25 - 2012-01-23 12:04:57 UTC
An increase in mining yield is not the "fix" for mining. It's been said a million times, and proven wrong a million and one.

95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-01-23 15:20:16 UTC
Jade Mitch wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Blatant Forum Alt wrote:
What the I don't even... grow a pair.


As much as I agree...grow a brain and say something creative as opposed to the usual "grow a pair" that you say in each-and-every-freaking-post.

I have no objection with you badgering the witless.


And I have no problem bashing your troll idea into ribbons either.

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Jade Mitch
A Problem with Authority
#27 - 2012-01-23 15:58:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Mitch
This would make me mine less. I don't want to waste all my time mining.

If other players want to keep mining, fine with me. And if that drives mineral prices down, great! I will transition over to manufacturing and take advantage of it.

But so will other industrialists, so the prices of ships and equipment will eventually go down. Does anyone with a normal brain have a problem with everything being cheaper?

Then I will finally be able to afford to transition over to pve and pvp Pirate without trading PLEX or selling game items on ebay. Of course I will still have to mine on occasion, so I can make something or just make some money. But when I loose my ship and all my mods/rigs/implants, it wont take me weeks or months to replace them.

...think about it.
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-01-23 18:08:36 UTC
Jade Mitch wrote:
This would make me mine less. I don't want to waste all my time mining.

If other players want to keep mining, fine with me. And if that drives mineral prices down, great! I will transition over to manufacturing and take advantage of it.

But so will other industrialists, so the prices of ships and equipment will eventually go down. Does anyone with a normal brain have a problem with everything being cheaper?

Then I will finally be able to afford to transition over to pve and pvp! Pirate And when I loose a ship and all my awesome mods, it wont take weeks to replace.

...think about it.



1: Your doing it wrong.

2: No one said you had to "Waste your time" mining.

3: Your full of crap.

4: Repeat above list again until its clearly in your mind.

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Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-01-24 07:39:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Alx Warlord
Jalmari Huitsikko wrote:
I ONCE THOUGHT MINING WOULD BE EXCITING LIKE EXPLORING VAST SPACE WITH BARELY ARMED MINING VESSAL AND THEN I WOULD SOMETIMES HIT JACKPOT AND FIND EXPENSIVE ASTEROIDS AND MINE THEM FAST LIKE IN COUPLE HOURS BEFORE OTHER GUY COMES OR BAD PIRATE. ALL TIHS EXPENSIVE STUFF WOULD OF COURSE GO INTO MY LARGE CARGOHOLD.

BUT THEN I LOGGED IN 2ND DAY AND I REALIZE MINING IS MEANT FOR BOTTERS NOT FOR ACTUAL GAMEPLAYERS.


Have you ever heard about gravimetrics?

Also, it is not only a chore, some people loves to mine...

Sorry, You guys are doing it wrong... go find some other way to get ISK.... or learn more about mining.... Sometimes it can be exciting! Especially FAR AWAY FORM HI SEC!!!

Although some random spawns of some new rare ore would be awesome!!!

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Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#30 - 2012-01-24 13:49:26 UTC
No, absolutely not.

I mine and manufacturer in Eve Online. I have seen the effects on how mineral prices effect the mining profession for years.

This will cause an already-under-appreciated career (mining) to be absolutely useless because the market will be so saturated in minerals that not only will the prices go down, but mining will be almost dead on its tracks. No one will mine because the return investment will not be worth it. At that point, it will be years before the market will recover.

Oh, and don't expect manufacturing to be so lucrative either. The price of manufacturing will always be tied to the mineral prices. People will eventually want to pay less as the minerals fall.

Let's take a good look at Crucible as an example:

When the Tier 3 battlecruisers came out, they were selling on the market for about 200-250mil ISK per ship. Manufacturers of course were just taking advantage of the brief rush to purchase as pod pilots clamored to get to them first. But the prices eventually settled to about 60-80mil per ship as more people realized that the cost to build such a ship is about 50mil when you take into account the mineral prices.

If the mineral prices drop by 900%, then so will the price of all other ships that are built with these building block of life. Manufacturing will not be worth it later on as the returns will not be enough to make up for the effort put into them. Sure, you can buy plenty of the minerals off the market, but you will find yourself selling a 80mil tier 3 battlecruiser for about 20mil.

Let's not forget the T2 ships. Their prices will drop as well, but will only go so low depending on how abundant moon-goo products will be. Of course, moon mining will probably be the only best industrial profession available one mining and manufacturing have both crashed to hell. Then more people will go to moon mining and crash that as well when moon-goo products begin to saturate the market.

What will be left then? PvE? Missioning will be the only lucrative profession and we all know how much ISK in NPC bounties will be pumped into the economy should everyone swarm to that profession.

TL;DR: Eve Economy will crash on almost all levels.

Again. No @ OP.

Adapt or Die
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-01-24 15:20:21 UTC
What would make mining more fun? EMOTES!

That's right... /dance will make your Hulk do the "Twist"!

/strip will make your Hulk produce holographic strip dancers above your ship! Space porn! Yay!

Really...I doubt there is anything that will ever make mining fun.

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Jade Mitch
A Problem with Authority
#32 - 2012-01-26 04:28:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Mitch
Henry Haphorn wrote:

Eve Economy will crash on almost all levels.


Markets don't crash due to increased production, they crash due to the lack of production.
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