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At what price point (isk) do you stop buying PLEX and pay for your sub with cash?

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Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-01-21 23:49:15 UTC
Sold a plex today at Jita for 480M and it took about 30 seconds to sell, lol
Antonio Valor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-01-21 23:52:37 UTC
The day they honor 365 days for the yearly subscription instead of the 5 days they steal. I am going to let my account lapse if they do not honor my 5 days. I am sure my money will be welcome by another company.

if you pay for 12 months you only get 360 days.

I had a GM honor the 5 extra days once.

So I pay for a yearly subscription last week but they actually REFUNDED My credit card when I open a petition to get my 5 days credited.

The GM said screw you. I posted my old petition where a GM game the 5 days and they still said screw you we are not honoring it.

Every 73 accounts that pay with real money add up to 365 days in "lost"/stolen game time.

The New GM are very bad with customer service.

Here is the proof:

Quote:
GM Markab Sent - 2/25/2010 12:03:00 AM
Hello,

I have now added these days to your subscription time.

The problem however is that the subscription periods are do not go by calendar days, but actually every month is counted as 30 days, and so a twelve months subscription is not really a year, but rather 12 times 30 days.

Best regards,
GM Markab
Eve Online Customer Support


Beaches
#43 - 2012-01-21 23:56:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Beaches
I pay for my main account with 15$ because I'm not cripplingly poor
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2012-01-22 04:29:13 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

PLEX is a fantastic ISK sink that self adjusts to ISK inflow / outflow balance.


Plex is not an isk sink. The isk goes from the purchaser to the seller, from the seller back into the economy.

As for the rest of your statements, I was not aware of fanfest's influence since I don't really pay attention to that news. It would make sense though and probably a significant contributor. Current pricing is most likely due to speculation due to a number of factors including fanfest.

Don't ban me, bro!

Brutor Slavechild 1039248223
#45 - 2012-01-22 04:37:49 UTC
Antonio Valor wrote:
The day they honor 365 days for the yearly subscription instead of the 5 days they steal. I am going to let my account lapse if they do not honor my 5 days. I am sure my money will be welcome by another company.

if you pay for 12 months you only get 360 days.

I had a GM honor the 5 extra days once.

So I pay for a yearly subscription last week but they actually REFUNDED My credit card when I open a petition to get my 5 days credited.

The GM said screw you. I posted my old petition where a GM game the 5 days and they still said screw you we are not honoring it.

Every 73 accounts that pay with real money add up to 365 days in "lost"/stolen game time.

The New GM are very bad with customer service.

Here is the proof:

Quote:
GM Markab Sent - 2/25/2010 12:03:00 AM
Hello,

I have now added these days to your subscription time.

The problem however is that the subscription periods are do not go by calendar days, but actually every month is counted as 30 days, and so a twelve months subscription is not really a year, but rather 12 times 30 days.

Best regards,
GM Markab
Eve Online Customer Support




Hats off mate, you're a colossal tight-wad. Factoring out those five days the year-long sub plan is still the cheapeast cash method of paying.

Maybe get a better job and stop sweating the chump change, eh?


Spineker
#46 - 2012-01-22 04:39:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Spineker
About 400 million because the hours to make 400 million cost far more than 15 bucks. Unless you are cheating or something. but 400 million is not too hard and is by and far by product but if people are grinding to pay for plex...

But if I didn't have 15 bucks to spend on a game then plex is cool. One of the best things I ever seen any game. People who want isk get it and people who want to play get too. Better than gold sink Ebay sellers. The isk is not fake so it is all good.
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#47 - 2012-01-22 04:41:12 UTC
I stopped subbing my my main with PLEX once it hit 450 as well. I still do it on the alt, but a bil a month for the two accounts was ridiculous.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!

Chesh Aideron
Androse Trinket Haus
#48 - 2012-01-22 04:48:37 UTC
I would rather not spend 4 hours grinding (working?) for the 450mil ISK it takes for a PLEX when I can spend 4 hours working (grinding?) for real life cash equivalent to 3 and a bit PLEX (or subsequent gametime). I don't consider PLEX free account time because the amount of time I spend getting ISK for it lowers the amount of time I spend getting real life cash at a greater rate than the money i save per hour by grinding enough to have a "free" account.

As for the OP's question ummm.... I stopped buying PLEX for gametime the instant I figured I could acquire gametime + real life cash for the same amount of effort that getting enough ISK to acquire a PLEX takes. At my current in game income/hour compared to my out of game income/hour, I would only pay for PLEX with ISK if it was priced at around 150mil ISK. anything more than that just wastes real life money by grinding, unfortunately :/
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#49 - 2012-01-22 04:58:59 UTC
I'm better at EVE than real life so I*ll probably keep on paying with ISK for a while. But when it's not worth it any longer I pay with real money. As people have stated earlier $15 isn't much.

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Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#50 - 2012-01-22 05:15:35 UTC
Well since I have a grown up real people job, if I work at my job I can make %15 waaaaaaaay faster than I can grind in eve to get a PLEX.

Although I live in null and don't farm incursions.........

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Richard C Hoagland
Anarchos Syndicate
#51 - 2012-01-22 06:39:58 UTC

I've been paying with RL money for a little while, and I enjoy having so much more ISK in my wallet.

PLEX prices have been far too high for me to consider them, probably since they broke 300 million. I can't even comprehend spending 500 million for one. If ISK inflation has allowed prices to rise this much, this fast, then there is a seriously unbalanced ISK faucet at work (Incursions?).
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#52 - 2012-01-22 06:52:20 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Never, simply because i can afford 15 bucks every month easily.


This.

I can easily afford PLEX for all my accounts year in and year out. The problem is that a PLEX for each account really takes a chunk out of my disposable income ingame at current prices, thus preventing me from enjoying EVE as I have to grind isk to be able to lose stuff.

So its easier to just pay with $. Ends up multiplying my ingame profit by a significant amount plus the infaltion on PLEX doesn't effect me.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#53 - 2012-01-22 06:59:09 UTC
Richard C Hoagland wrote:

I've been paying with RL money for a little while, and I enjoy having so much more ISK in my wallet.

PLEX prices have been far too high for me to consider them, probably since they broke 300 million. I can't even comprehend spending 500 million for one. If ISK inflation has allowed prices to rise this much, this fast, then there is a seriously unbalanced ISK faucet at work (Incursions?).


I don't think its that people have the isk to buy it... I believe its that we don't have enough people buying PLEX to sell in Eve. The demand for PLEX is clearly there. It's the supply that's causing the inflation. Think veldspar.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

flakeys
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-01-22 07:23:09 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Nex apparatu5 wrote:
I pay in cash no matter the price of plex, because I have a job.




I rather pay isk for a sub then cash , so allthough i got a job i'll stick to paying in PLEX till the 1B a plex for sure.Maybe if it goes above 1 B i'll reconsider how many accs i want to keep subbed IF one at all.

Mostly depends on how fast or slow you make isk in the game and the amount of grind you need for each to decide paying plex or cash.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#55 - 2012-01-22 07:31:58 UTC
My threshold was in the 350mil isk range before I stopped buying them. Somewhere in there it stopped being a game and became a job. Now I just pay my 50 cents a day to play and just enjoy what I can earn.

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Alain Kinsella
#56 - 2012-01-22 08:33:19 UTC
I normally pay in 6-month subscriptions, so its really about $12.50/month.

For awhile, I had a monthly subscription in Second Life that was $300-$350 (moderate land holdings, partially paid by others). The average land 'subscription' in SL is $25/month (also GameTap, which was the second hoster for Uru / Myst Online).

At those rates, paying for one or two Eve accounts do not sound so bad. Bear

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