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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#101 - 2012-01-21 15:00:01 UTC
Gabriel Mangeiri wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
reality is beautiful .. all those laws bullshit nonsense .. imaginary rights, prejudice, jurisdiction created only to herd masses like sheep..

who is an idot then ? the one who blindly follow or the one who act on their own.


The ones who defy said laws and then confess on a public forum. You may think it's cool to be a rebel, but when you're talking about a crime you've committed to thousands of other people, it doesn't make you smart. It makes you a ******* moron.

This is, of course, ignoring the simple fact his actions are logically fallacious. He's guilty of a few fallacies, in fact. Ad ignorantiam, false continuum, Inconsistency, slippery slope, tu quoque.


well depend..

I personally think its high time we as an human kind pack our **** and die out.. Society has not changed since 3k b.c. people are just more stupid fat and happy about being the same scrubs as before.. and hey getting payed by money Lol wtf.

as per prejudice well prejudice creates character.. if you live without it you may as well die ..

But this thread is not about such.. so i leave it to that...
Crime does not exist, guilt somehow exist yet only in our "heads" ... crime is an idea, laws are ideas, rights are ideas.. they are cute but they are ultimately imaginary.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2012-01-21 15:03:15 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

Crime does not exist, guilt somehow exist yet only in our "heads" ... crime is an idea, laws are ideas, rights are ideas.. they are cute but they are ultimately imaginary.


Except I suppose when your bending down for soap in the prison showers? ;)

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#103 - 2012-01-21 15:04:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

Crime does not exist, guilt somehow exist yet only in our "heads" ... crime is an idea, laws are ideas, rights are ideas.. they are cute but they are ultimately imaginary.


Except I suppose when your bending down for soap in the prison showers? ;)


There is always an suicide option .. life is overpriced.
You are born
your mind is ultimately destroyed/created by enviroment/culture
you do plenty of meaningless **** / because you were programmed that way
you die ..

nothing to see there..
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2012-01-21 15:06:04 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Grumpy Owly wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:

Crime does not exist, guilt somehow exist yet only in our "heads" ... crime is an idea, laws are ideas, rights are ideas.. they are cute but they are ultimately imaginary.


Except I suppose when your bending down for soap in the prison showers? ;)


There is always an suicide option .. life is overpriced.
You are born
you do plenty of meaningless ****
you die ..

nothing to see there..


Sux to be you then I guess.

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2012-01-21 15:07:44 UTC
Grumpy Owly wrote:


Sux to be you then I guess.


*nod
Gabriel Mangeiri
Doomheim
#106 - 2012-01-21 15:07:54 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Crime does not exist, guilt somehow exist yet only in our "heads" ... crime is an idea, laws are ideas, rights are ideas.. they are cute but they are ultimately imaginary.


Except it doesn't really matter if crime is only in your head. You still get punished for it, whether or not you believe in it.

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BTW, honest question to the rest of the forum - is there really a law (and a federal one, at that) in America about what reasons a private employer is allowed to have to hire or not a candidate?

And you are terrified of Europeans because they're socialists? Bloody hell.


Yes, there is. It's to prevent employers from disqualifying applicants based upon nothing more than illogical prejudices such as "they play Eve". Employers can be forced to hire said person, among other penalties. Our laws prevent employees against retribution of any kind by employers as well.

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Fabio Killer
Doomheim
#107 - 2012-01-21 15:47:48 UTC
Gabriel Mangeiri wrote:


Quote:
BTW, honest question to the rest of the forum - is there really a law (and a federal one, at that) in America about what reasons a private employer is allowed to have to hire or not a candidate?

And you are terrified of Europeans because they're socialists? Bloody hell.


Yes, there is. It's to prevent employers from disqualifying applicants based upon nothing more than illogical prejudices such as "they play Eve". Employers can be forced to hire said person, among other penalties. Our laws prevent employees against retribution of any kind by employers as well.


You play EVE? You are scum. It's my personal opinion of course, but all I had to do was call up C&P and have the other panel members read for 10 minutes.

"You know me, guys. In EVE, people like me are universally despised for being too nice. You sure you want to hire this fellow?"

It was unanimous. And hilarious.
Berendas
Ascendant Operations
#108 - 2012-01-21 15:52:58 UTC
The mad is strong in OP.
Mnengli Noiliffe
Doomheim
#109 - 2012-01-21 15:55:40 UTC
lol i hope you are already looking for a new job

because they only got your word for being considered too nice in this game...
J Kunjeh
#110 - 2012-01-21 15:59:11 UTC
OP, you must be new here....

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Elessa Enaka
Doomheim
#111 - 2012-01-21 16:03:11 UTC
Gabriel Mangeiri wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Crime does not exist, guilt somehow exist yet only in our "heads" ... crime is an idea, laws are ideas, rights are ideas.. they are cute but they are ultimately imaginary.


Except it doesn't really matter if crime is only in your head. You still get punished for it, whether or not you believe in it.



I think he is saying that crime is a figment of our collective consciousness. If the collective thinks it is "wrong" or "criminal", then it is (or at least our perception of it is). For instance, I have a friend IRL who stood up for a family member and did what he thought was right (and TBH, 150 years ago, he'd have been a hero for doing what he did), he spent a good deal of time in prison because of standing up for someone who was directly in harms way. If he'd have done the same thing for a politician, he wouldn't have had to spend time in prison, as society wouldn't perceive him as a criminal so much as a hero.

Devour to survive, so it is, so it's always been Eve is a great game if you can get past all of the asshats....
Anderron Shi
Perkone
Caldari State
#112 - 2012-01-21 16:16:00 UTC
OP, your av looks like the wife of a flea-market preacher.

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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2012-01-21 16:37:48 UTC
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
While I enjoy the sandbox gameplay the OP also has a point, it was great that the gameplay allowed you the freedom to be a sociopath, but you did not have to. The kind of people that joined EVE in the last few years are the same kind of guys that every MMO with a decent customer support would have kicked out soon enough.

A few years ago we read about huge scams, heists etc going on as events. Now we have rabble that is advertising their scam contracts in every trade hub and the space between, suicide ganks became fashion after some griefers with few PvP skills found out how to kill things that cannot shoot back without risking much.

In a way eve became a ghetto, it was always a PvP game and I would not want to have it otherwise but it has really gotten a bit out of control.

Yes and I consider most of the people posting here as worthless, ingame and out of game.


Quoted for truth.

+1

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Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#114 - 2012-01-21 16:42:04 UTC
Hey, I want a better Eve, but what do you want me to do? Go on TV and tell everyone that they all have to be nice to each other? It is every New Eden's citizen god given right to be miserable and nasty. It sucks, yeah, but short of re-education for every person who ever gets on the internet, you are just going to have to thicken that skin up. If you can't, this game is NOT for you. Actually, pretty much every MMO is not for you.
"If."
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-01-21 16:52:50 UTC
pretty sure trying to start unsubbing campaigns on the forums is not allowed ;p

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Blastil
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#116 - 2012-01-21 17:02:25 UTC
yes, all 80% of eve highsecers unite! oh wait, they're all money making alts for those of us lowsec lowlives because there really ISN"T any money in ganking or gatecamping... hm.

also, flame on.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#117 - 2012-01-21 17:13:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Schalac wrote:
Jett0 wrote:
The only reason I play this game is because there's a possibility, wherever I am or whatever I'm doing, that I might die and lose something valuable.

Try finding that kind of rush in "Game of the Year" Rift, or WoW, or SWTOR.

I get that rush when I fight a dragon in "Game of the Year" Skyrim.


How? I kill them so fast and so easily it's not even fun any more Cry (hardest difficulty setting).

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Trainwreck McGee
Doomheim
#118 - 2012-01-21 17:14:23 UTC
sweet sweet raging carebear tears

keep em coming!!

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Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2012-01-21 17:22:37 UTC
And nothing of value was lost
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#120 - 2012-01-21 17:22:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
CeneUJiti wrote:
I mean you are the ones insane here if you expect me to eagerly pay money for a game where others will dictate how , when and what I play.


It's strange, my oldest character is 2008 (yes I missed the juicy early years QQ), in these years I nave not been dictated how or when I play by anyone.


CeneUJiti wrote:

Why would anyone pay money for such a terrible game where you can only always lose (isk or nerves, doesn't matter. games are supposed to be fun; for me, I mean, its certainly fun for you guys)


You only lose if you do nothing or if you do it wrong.

Certainly if you are a sheep or live like one, everyone else will look like a lion to you.

But look, if you get out of your home, the real world is not any better.

If you wanted "relief" then you really subbed the wrong game.


CeneUJiti wrote:

PS. Its not tears. Its rage. Rage at me being stupid enough to give money (again) for such a terrible game. (well decent game but with terrible players;and devs and GMs with no connection with reality and economy). Rage at being stupid enough to believe anything in EVE has changed since last time.


You should rage at you not understanding a MMO mechanics for six times. Also, economy is just fine except a bit too much inflation but that's being fixed with some ISK faucets nerfs.
Also, EvE has not changed since it exists and it's one of the FEW MMOs that delivers what it promises on the box: a cold harsh universe where everyone is out to get YOU.

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