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Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#501 - 2012-01-24 14:46:55 UTC
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#502 - 2012-01-24 14:51:04 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZzenuYxI

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Elistea
BLUE Regiment.
#503 - 2012-01-24 14:59:16 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZzenuYxI


Ty for Outro Roll
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#504 - 2012-01-24 15:28:01 UTC
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?





Join a 0.0 entity or start your own corp. You will get your social life back, you will be able to make money for PVP. Missions, 0.0 anos 0.0 incursions etc. Or unsub your last account.
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#505 - 2012-01-24 15:50:34 UTC
Lady Hofstedar wrote:

Bottom line is, the majority of EvE Players are players banned from other mmos for the same kinda behaviour and the so called *elite pvp corps* in Empire and *griefer corps* are slowly killing the game.

Mostly because they are nerdy, overweight socially rejected children who still live with there mummies and daddies because theya re scared of the real world and subsequently live on eve online which in effect becomes there life.


I wouldn't join a corp run by someone as irrational and ignorant as you. Imagine the impression a new player gets when someone claiming to have played Eve for 5 years recruits them and starts crying and complaining about the game.

Furthermore ,it's players like you that cause a great many newbies to leave. You start a corp not knowing the first thing about Eve, invite a bunch of new players and fail to help or educate them about the game. Then, when things get tough, you run around crying 'griefer' and the new players think that every corp in Eve is as terrible as yours. There are thousands of good corps in Eve and there are thousands of bad ones too. If a new player joins a good corp he/she will have a much better time.
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#506 - 2012-01-24 15:53:21 UTC
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#507 - 2012-01-24 21:10:02 UTC
Elistea wrote:
... and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?



If you're the type of player that isn't into eve for the long haul, your opinions about game changes doesn't and shouldn't count for much.

Arrow
Morgals
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#508 - 2012-01-24 21:49:58 UTC
Enjoy incursions but they do get stale.
More dynamic vg's with more variable content so people don't min max as much. Maybe occasionally they will be long range fit and be far away, or use some e-war.

The brick thing is sort of silly but it really hurts casual players. I can only play 2h or so a night and if most of that is spent making 20 or so jumps to the next location I don;t actually get to play much. So logging in to do incursions does not happen.

In my 2h play period i want to get on and shoot stuff. Incursions lasting only 1 play period mean moving each day.

Incursions should stay in one place longer...that said incursions do not escilate....
Never seen a high sec incursion with penalties....for high sec the penalty system should be a lot harder to push.

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Eyeama Spy
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#509 - 2012-01-24 22:14:03 UTC
This is eve
**** happens
grow a pair and stop whinning on the forums
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
#510 - 2012-01-24 23:27:45 UTC
Morgals wrote:
Enjoy incursions but they do get stale.
More dynamic vg's with more variable content so people don't min max as much. Maybe occasionally they will be long range fit and be far away, or use some e-war.

The brick thing is sort of silly but it really hurts casual players. I can only play 2h or so a night and if most of that is spent making 20 or so jumps to the next location I don;t actually get to play much. So logging in to do incursions does not happen.

In my 2h play period i want to get on and shoot stuff. Incursions lasting only 1 play period mean moving each day.

Incursions should stay in one place longer...that said incursions do not escilate....
Never seen a high sec incursion with penalties....for high sec the penalty system should be a lot harder to push.


I wonder if CCP is able to provide such a feature at some point down the road..
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#511 - 2012-01-24 23:41:50 UTC  |  Edited by: John Maynard Keynes
Don't worry about the incursion income. 4/10 plexes in high sec drop now the Pithum C-Type Invul. Fields. Their stats are idenical to Kaikka's invul. field and they go for around 1.5 bil atm.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#512 - 2012-01-24 23:59:11 UTC
John Maynard Keynes wrote:
Don't worry about the incursion income. 4/10 plexes in high sec drop now the Pithum C-Type Invul. Fields. Their stats are idenical to Kaikka's invul. field and they go for around 1.5 bil atm.


But scanning is hard yo!
Sarina Rhoda
Doomheim
#513 - 2012-01-25 00:59:06 UTC
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?




You pretty much sum up here everything that is wrong with the general mentality of the highsec carebear population. This is the same tears and whining that has lead to so many bad/unnecessary nerfs and buffs throughout the history of eve. Its like a plague/virus this self created feeling of entitlement that seems to make you think that everything should be geared for your play style and made as easy for you as possible.

So far there is only pure speculation of a nerf and you are already threatening to quit. The income from incursions hasn't gone anywhere nor is it going to. It may be reduced but that is it, just reduced. Rather than adapt your income source or wait to see what is going to be suggested as a balance you head straight to the forums to whine and threaten to cut accounts.

Your so engrossed in how you play the game and how it should cater for you that you can't take the time to look at the overall picture and actually assess what is right for the good off the game. I've had many of my income streams dry up or change throughout my time playing eve, but each time I just adapt and find a new way to play.


(if its the incursions being cut short by brick squad that you are whining about the same argument about getting over it and adapting still applys)
gfldex
#514 - 2012-01-25 01:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: gfldex
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?


Please have a look at this screenshot. What you see there is the development of the plex price in the last year in Jita, the main market for this fine item of bittervet prolongment. Incursions where introduced about a year ago, you can see the price on the left. We are now at the price on the right.

It is right now fairly easy for you to plex your 3 account with running up to 2 hours of Incursions per day. Lets say you make 100M per day, every day (a fairly high picture frankly). You would earn 3B ISK per 30 days. If we take the growth of plex prices for the last 2 month and keep going for another 2 years (pretty unlikely, I know) you would have to pay 5BISK per month to keep your 3 accounts active.

I'm a griefer by heard. I really care about your feelings and I therefore beg you to stay with us. I really want to see your tears when you realise that the collective greed for faction shinies of your "social life" is forcing you out of the game.

Quite frankly, if you call farming the same NPCs (exactly the same NPCs) over and over again your "social life" you may want to look for professional help. I really mean it because I, as a griefer, recognise and care about other players feelings.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#515 - 2012-01-25 01:52:26 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?


Please have a look at this screenshot. What you see there is the development of the plex price in the last year in Jita, the main market for this fine item of bittervet prolongment. Incursions where introduced about a year ago, you can see the price on the left. We are now at the price on the right.

It is right now fairly easy for you to plex your 3 account with running up to 2 hours of Incursions per day. Lets say you make 100M per day, every day (a fairly high picture frankly). You would earn 3B ISK per 30 days. If we take the growth of plex prices for the last 2 month and keep going for another 2 years (pretty unlikely, I know) you would have to pay 5BISK per month to keep your 3 accounts active.

I'm a griefer by heard. I really care about your feelings and I therefore beg you to stay with us. I really want to see your tears when you realise that the collected greed for faction shinies of your "social life" is forcing you out of the game.

Quite frankly, if you call farming the same NPCs (exactly the same NPCs) over and over again your "social life" you may want to look for professional help. I really mean it because I, as a griefer, recognise and care about other players feelings.


You know PI also came out at about the same time as incursions. Hum which do I think is causing inflation, a couple people running incursions or the removal of a massive isk sink (NPC POS fuels).
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#516 - 2012-01-25 02:10:31 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
gfldex wrote:
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?


Please have a look at this screenshot. What you see there is the development of the plex price in the last year in Jita, the main market for this fine item of bittervet prolongment. Incursions where introduced about a year ago, you can see the price on the left. We are now at the price on the right.

It is right now fairly easy for you to plex your 3 account with running up to 2 hours of Incursions per day. Lets say you make 100M per day, every day (a fairly high picture frankly). You would earn 3B ISK per 30 days. If we take the growth of plex prices for the last 2 month and keep going for another 2 years (pretty unlikely, I know) you would have to pay 5BISK per month to keep your 3 accounts active.

I'm a griefer by heard. I really care about your feelings and I therefore beg you to stay with us. I really want to see your tears when you realise that the collected greed for faction shinies of your "social life" is forcing you out of the game.

Quite frankly, if you call farming the same NPCs (exactly the same NPCs) over and over again your "social life" you may want to look for professional help. I really mean it because I, as a griefer, recognise and care about other players feelings.


You know PI also came out at about the same time as incursions. Hum which do I think is causing inflation, a couple people running incursions or the removal of a massive isk sink (NPC POS fuels).


Both of them?
gfldex
#517 - 2012-01-25 02:12:14 UTC  |  Edited by: gfldex
Jas Dor wrote:
You know PI also came out at about the same time as incursions. Hum which do I think is causing inflation, a couple people running incursions or the removal of a massive isk sink (NPC POS fuels).


PI does not generate ISK nor does it do so in highsec. I have 15 planets myself and they are good ISK - in lowsec. That's where highsec incursion runners wont go. The money that I earn with my 15 planets has to come from somewhere. Moon goo can't be it because it's moon goo and not ISK. Sanctums are less ISK then Incursions and there are a lot fewer of them then there used to be. Missions provide a nice ISK sink with the LP shop and they where not changed in the last year.

I'm terribly sorry but the only place where that ISK can come from are Incursions. It would be nice when CCP would step up and provide some hard numbers but for some strange reason I doubt they will do that any time soon, because it would put them between a rock and a hard place. The rock are the stressed out Incursion runners and the hard place are the "griefers".

Ohh, and PI did not came at the same time then Incursions. It came with Dominion.

Dominion Release date: December 1st, 2009.
Incursion 18 January 2011: New character creator, and Sansha's Nation incursion content (incursions actually start on 25 January)

source: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Eve_Expansions

I do not claim to be an expert in math but you seam to be more then a year off target.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Sicex
#518 - 2012-01-25 02:14:26 UTC
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?





A community grown around a short lived, broken system is a Den of Thieves. Pirate
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#519 - 2012-01-25 02:25:17 UTC
Elistea wrote:
Incursions were big part of my EVE's social life. Got to know great group of ppl i ran them with. Now i lost that.
As i mentioned B4 i used incursions to fuel my PVP.
Since this income is gone i had to make tough decision - deactivate 2 of my 3 accounts. (CCP will love thatCool)
Ill give it couple more days/weeks and if nothing changes im back to Starcraft 2.

If CCP doesn't care - I don't careWhat?




Still, once your mascara has stopped running, with regards to the greedy "augustus gloop" like farming at least you can say, you were there toots. Big smile

Black Man with Goggles
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#520 - 2012-01-25 02:25:55 UTC
to the OP: It's really sad that you should be forced to go through this. I just want you to know that you're not alone here. The silent majority of EVE is out there, fighting alongside you to help CCP see what really matters in EVE. These hapless morons who have nothing better to do than grief others don't really have a life--they thrive on the pain and suffering of others because they are too weak to face their own pain over being a worthless good-for-nothing. But it's not right for them to bring their ineptitude upon the rest of us. I support your fight against griefing!

Thanks for the post. It was good to hear a friendly voice on the forums, but I really have got to get back to the incursion-griefing channel. We're plotting our next big move!! ^0^

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."