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gfldex
#361 - 2012-01-23 02:58:21 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
Well we're down under 31,000 at 8 PM on a Sunday. At this point we're beginning to see the knock on effects of drop in player participation. I know I just logged off two market alts as volume is way off right now. Speaking of better things to do. . .

Hey CCP anything that kills your players online numbers like this is a serious fing problem.


We used to have 10000 players more online at the end of 2010. Incursions was released at the end of 2010, since then the numbers dropped. Something went wrong and CCP really should look into the cause. Might it even be that players don't have to be online anymore because they can spend much less time with making ISK? The long term player base used to stay for the PvP. Neither Incrusions nor Incarna did any good in that regard.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Lysaeus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#362 - 2012-01-23 02:59:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lysaeus
Jas Dor wrote:
CCP had a very good day, then they didn't.


The Sun was having a great day lighting up Europe, then it wasn't.
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
#363 - 2012-01-23 03:03:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tres Farmer
Jas Dor wrote:
Tres Farmer wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Wow, it's 8p.m. CST Sunday night and their are only 31,000 people online according to eve stats we maxed at around 50,000. While I know some of that is maxing with EU/US overlap it looks like number of pilots online might be down 4,000-5,000+ with the closing of all high sec incursions.

BTW I brought up D&D to point out that people like to get together for scheduled gaming events.

Mate, you should check those figures again, looks pretty healthy, considering what CCP wnet through last 6-9 months..
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility *
Where do you make out those -5k players?

*) Chribba does draw them 'backwards'.. most recent activity is most left in all of his graphs

Quote:
Currently online: 30,138
Max today: 50,367

CCP had a very good day, then they didn't.

Hm.. as I haven't got any pictures of the last Weekend/Sunday stats you might be right.. the downward slope is a bit steeper then on Saturday.
One could argue though, that this is partly because it's a Sunday.. some parts of the playerbase obviously must have a job that starts on Monday morning... What?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#364 - 2012-01-23 03:05:15 UTC
gfldex wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Well we're down under 31,000 at 8 PM on a Sunday. At this point we're beginning to see the knock on effects of drop in player participation. I know I just logged off two market alts as volume is way off right now. Speaking of better things to do. . .

Hey CCP anything that kills your players online numbers like this is a serious fing problem.


We used to have 10000 players more online at the end of 2010. Incursions was released at the end of 2010, since then the numbers dropped. Something went wrong and CCP really should look into the cause. Might it even be that players don't have to be online anymore because they can spend much less time with making ISK? The long term player base used to stay for the PvP. Neither Incrusions nor Incarna did any good in that regard.


If you actually meant 100K players online, you must live in the Red Universe where EVE enjoys 15 Million active player accounts. Otherwise 10K is FAR less than 31K

31K online on a Sunday night (US time) is actually more active than it has been in a while.

FFS at least use pull some numbers out of your arse that make sense in this universe.






☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
#365 - 2012-01-23 03:08:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tres Farmer
Doc Fury wrote:
gfldex wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Well we're down under 31,000 at 8 PM on a Sunday. At this point we're beginning to see the knock on effects of drop in player participation. I know I just logged off two market alts as volume is way off right now. Speaking of better things to do. . .

Hey CCP anything that kills your players online numbers like this is a serious fing problem.


We used to have 10,000 players more online at the end of 2010. Incursions was released at the end of 2010, since then the numbers dropped. Something went wrong and CCP really should look into the cause. Might it even be that players don't have to be online anymore because they can spend much less time with making ISK? The long term player base used to stay for the PvP. Neither Incrusions nor Incarna did any good in that regard.

If you actually meant 100K players online, you must live in the Red Universe where EVE enjoys 15 Million active player accounts. Otherwise 10K is FAR less than 31K

31K online on a Sunday night (US time) is actually more active than it has been in a while.

FFS at least use pull some numbers out of your arse that make sense in this universe.

Fixed his post, to make it easier for you (comma for 1,000s and underlined the important part).

Not your night/day Doc, huh? Go get some sleep Blink
gfldex
#366 - 2012-01-23 03:12:05 UTC
Tres Farmer wrote:
Fixed his post, to make it easier for you (comma for 1,000s and underlined the important part).


tyvm

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#367 - 2012-01-23 03:14:01 UTC
Tres Farmer wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
gfldex wrote:
Jas Dor wrote:
Well we're down under 31,000 at 8 PM on a Sunday. At this point we're beginning to see the knock on effects of drop in player participation. I know I just logged off two market alts as volume is way off right now. Speaking of better things to do. . .

Hey CCP anything that kills your players online numbers like this is a serious fing problem.


We used to have 10.000 players more online at the end of 2010. Incursions was released at the end of 2010, since then the numbers dropped. Something went wrong and CCP really should look into the cause. Might it even be that players don't have to be online anymore because they can spend much less time with making ISK? The long term player base used to stay for the PvP. Neither Incrusions nor Incarna did any good in that regard.

If you actually meant 100K players online, you must live in the Red Universe where EVE enjoys 15 Million active player accounts. Otherwise 10K is FAR less than 31K

31K online on a Sunday night (US time) is actually more active than it has been in a while.

FFS at least use pull some numbers out of your arse that make sense in this universe.

Fixed his post, to make it easier for you. (point for 1.000s and underlined the important part)

Not your night/day Doc, huh? Go get some sleep Blink


Yeah, my reading comp skills are obviously going to hell.. Sleep is probably a good idea.

Carry on then and disregard. Two shots of rum and off to bed.



☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#368 - 2012-01-23 03:17:02 UTC
minmatarsebiestormale20091011111 wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
I thought we were just running incursions as CCP intended. I didn't realize we were doing it wrong Sad



Abusing a broken system gj


It's only 'broken' because you can't farm the ever loving heck out of them. I suggest you find another ISK faucet. I have it on good authority there are other ways besides Incursions to make ISK and of course be social. Go find a few. 
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Zubrette
R3d Fire
#369 - 2012-01-23 03:24:17 UTC
Incursions are working as intended. If you think CCP isn't cheering the griefers on I don't think you understand the nature of EVE Online.
Spineker
#370 - 2012-01-23 03:30:54 UTC
I seriously doubt they are cheering or otherwise. Is a business not a football game and they have to balance for all players.

Plus in a few days it will be over and people will go back to whatever.
Lysaeus
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#371 - 2012-01-23 03:51:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lysaeus
Spineker wrote:
I seriously doubt they are cheering or otherwise. Is a business not a football game and they have to balance for all players.

Plus in a few days it will be over and people will go back to whatever.


You assume that by "cheering" they're cheering for one side or the other rather than cheering about players driving the content, something you'd want to happen in a sandbox game. I would like to see them take pride in their creation in that manner.
Sicex
#372 - 2012-01-23 03:53:39 UTC
Spineker wrote:
I seriously doubt they are cheering or otherwise. Is a business not a football game and they have to balance for all players.

Plus in a few days it will be over and people will go back to whatever.


I hope you're right just you can smugly sit back and fold your arms and say "haHA!" as you mindlessly farm Incursion content so that you can generate ISK to farm Incursions better.
Spineker
#373 - 2012-01-23 03:57:36 UTC
Hey dummy I never run incursion. Does your Epeen feel bigger today?
Spineker
#374 - 2012-01-23 03:58:04 UTC
Lysaeus wrote:
Spineker wrote:
I seriously doubt they are cheering or otherwise. Is a business not a football game and they have to balance for all players.

Plus in a few days it will be over and people will go back to whatever.


You assume that by "cheering" they're cheering for one side or the other rather than cheering about players driving the content, something you'd want to happen in a sandbox game. I would like to see them take pride in their creation in that manner.



People say sandbox as if they know what it means.
Emma Swift
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#375 - 2012-01-23 04:00:21 UTC
Just make the security of all systems affected by an incursion null o.o -(dangerous) and make rewards for hi, low and null =

make it fun ffs !
Sicex
#376 - 2012-01-23 04:00:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Sicex
Sorry, I meant everyone else that you are for whatever reason defending?

Wouldn't you want an ISK faucet, with little risk, closed or tightened? Why does it feel like I'm trying to convince donkeys its okay to give some of their money away to help other people out?
Spineker
#377 - 2012-01-23 04:01:27 UTC
Emma Swift wrote:
Just make the security of all systems affected by an incursion null o.o -(dangerous) and make rewards for hi, low and null =

make it fun ffs !



No you realize there are other people playing who don't give a damn about Null sec. That don't have anything to do with incursions.
Spineker
#378 - 2012-01-23 04:08:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Spineker
Make incursion Vanguards etc not respawn but when the MOM is dead they respawn in the next hour or so in some other system etc. Not difficult they can pick up their fleet and move on and that way people who don't care about Epeens or Incursion fleets can go about their business without being locked down for days while incursions are farmed.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#379 - 2012-01-23 04:12:32 UTC
Spineker wrote:
Make incursion Vanguards etc not respawn but when the MOM is dead they respawn in the next hour or so in some other system etc. Not difficult they can pick up their fleet and move on and that way people who don't care about Epeens or Incursion fleets can go about their business without being locked down for days while incursions are farmed.


Or make it a week until an incursion respawns, that way the tears will be enough that I can go white water rafting Big smile

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Pollo Rico
Pollo Hermano
#380 - 2012-01-23 04:25:44 UTC
You don't see Pollo complaining that he cannot wear Pink Princess Tutu in captain quarters. Pollo approves of Bricksquad. Pollo approves of you going back in your shiny machariel and do level 4 missions or go play WOW ya panzies. Pollo approves of that.

http://tinyurl.com/Pollo-Approves