EVE General Discussion

It is a monthly figure according to CSM minutes. so the annual inflation is 1.001^12-1=12.7%


Hence:

Make incursions a low sec only feature.
+ boosting low sec
+ keeping risk reward balanced

Off Topic:
Remove insurance payout from 0.0 and increase bounties and indstrial benefits in 0.0
+ defeats where no supers die will actually hurt your wallet
+ stronger incentives to move to 0.0
+ keeps isk faucets and sinks balanced
+ increases the "risk" in 0.0 (at least in PvP)

Besides that i am also for a delayed local in 0.0 so that you actually really need an intel ship and not just someone in a cloaky ship on a safe. And it would make Carebearing in 0.0 actually risky... Right now there is no risk as long as you are not Brain-Afk or stupid.

In essence:

“Waah, another player playing the game legitimately is keeping me from exploiting weaknesses in the rule set to milk every last ISK-cent from this feature. Allowing him to do so will make us leave, and you will suffer!!”

…much like how various botting proponents have defended the use of bots and decried any methods to halt their botting.

It is a monthly figure according to CSM minutes. so the annual inflation is 1.001^12-1=12.7%


Hence:

Make incursions a low sec only feature.
+ boosting low sec
+ keeping risk reward balance

Off Topic:
Remove insurance payout from 0.0 and increase bounties and indstrial benefits in 0.0
+ defeats where no supers die will actually hurt your wallet
+ stronger incentives to move to 0.0
+ keeps is faucet and sinks balanced
+ increases the "risk" in 0.0 (at least in PvP)

Besides that i am also for a delayed local in 0.0 so that you actually really need an intel ship and not just someone in a cloaky ship on a safe. And it would make Carebearing in 0.0 actually risky... Right know there is no risk as long as you are not Brain-Afk or stupid.[/quote]

Yeah move it the low sec, where every single other feature ever put their has died. Moving a feature to low sec is the equivalent of killing it (FW is a special case). The mechanics of low sec favor the pvp aggressor. Gate guns and sec loss mean that organized defenders are at a disadvantage. At the same time aggressor groups (pirates) are advantaged. Low sec mechanics are a prescripted drama of pirate ganks victim. No player with half a brain is going to volunteer to take the role of victim. Face it, WH space is what low sec should have been.

There is no practical difference between moving a feature to low sec and restricting it to null only.

All true, the only problem is EVE is a PvP game in all aspects. From running missions and selling the loot to PI to roaming gangs to gate camps to sitting in a station spinning a ship. They are ALL PvP activities because EVE is a sandbox game built around inherent conflict between all of us.

What makes you wonder what those players did before we got Incursions about a year ago.

There are two flaws in the incursions feature. The first is a game design flaw. The isk distribution on the current sites are not balanced such as to encourage people to run the harder sites. Keep in mind that any content balanced to be run by groups of players is going to produce some descent isk. This is because humans>NPCs. Yes Vangaurds need their isk output dropped a bit, but probably not as much as you would think.

The second flaw is that the mobility feature. Incursions are designed to move so that no group can assert ownership over the content (unlike the old static plexes). Desire to participate in this feature is large enough that the movement feature became a limiting feature. The work around for this flaw was simply an agreement amongst all concerned not to immediately ended the incursion. This work around is proving unworkable.

Unless you can show that ending an Incursion was met as a limiting feature and not a feature to prevent static ownership it is you who are exploiting a weakness in the ruleset to exploit a loophole.

I suspect a good bit of what is going on here is that inflation + faction fits are eating in Nulls moon goo income. (CCP Nerf goo, buff anoms please).

And there you are wrong. Ship spinning is best done in highsec. The whole point of being a bittervet it to not play the game while being bitter.

Raider types can and do handle it.

Point of Reference the Massive Massive Ban List that BTL has. High Sector Incursions have never been safe.

http://www.g4mer.net/blist/index.php

There has been Griefing since day one. But there is a huge difference between dying while participating in an Incursion VS being denied the Incursion environment altogether.

But ruining the weekend play to thousands fo High sector players because a selected few feel that all players should play in the bitter world they live in that is an Incursionless world is not the right approach. I hope CCP give perma bands as they are costing real memberships from the game.

Whenever a high sector player decides he wants his ship to be blown up all he as to do is set auto pilot to the nearest 0.0 gate.

Obviously they can't. Look at the tears. Also, there's so much to do in this game. if you play this game just for incursions, you're playing the wrong game. There are so many games out there that provide such content better, and mostly grief free. If having someone interfere with your activities is a problem for you, go play something that doesn't allow such things.

But the griefers aren't complaining that they can't grief.