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You post with your main in C&P?! [:o]

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#81 - 2012-01-24 21:11:28 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Andski wrote:
i post with my main because heh, what are you going to do


Pretty much this.



WE WILL USE ALL CAPS

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-01-24 21:24:15 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
WE WILL USE ALL CAPS


CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL... Roll
yopparai
ASTARTES CORP
Hashashin Cartel
#83 - 2012-01-24 21:41:04 UTC
I LIKE TO POST WITH MY MAIN!
Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-01-24 22:20:15 UTC
you ppl suck at posting whith C*A*P*S

Father O'Malley about Darius III begging for whelp: “Hows that working out for ya ? I make it 02:21 and all I see is you begging Riverini to get numbers and trying to recruit from the incursion public channel.”
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-01-25 04:58:59 UTC
I've got nothing to hide and an ego to stroke.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#86 - 2012-01-27 19:57:37 UTC
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Posting with an alt on forum is the height of carebearism.
Xylorn Hasher

To me it seems like the opposite is true. By posting with your main, you are demonstrating your ignorance of the realities of Eve. It falls in line with the carebear mentality of not acknowledging the dangers involved and blindly plodding forward in a make-believe land of “should be”. Carebears don’t tank their indies, over-pimp their Tengus, mine during Hulkageddon, and post with their mains, for the same reason: They can’t be arsed to take preventative measures against obvious dangers.
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Always use my main, freedom of speech and all that jazz plus for those who disagree I'm always up for more to shoot at
seany1212

The use of a pseudonym when writing is a time-honored device to avoid negative feedback by people who oppose what you are writing. For example, Benjamin Franklin often wrote under another name to affect policy change while avoiding political entanglement. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech but rather the freedom to speak and not be harassed for what you say. Freedom of speech is not a bullet-proof vest.
As for the “I happily **** people off in forums so that I have more targets” argument… That seems to be a popular one. You are saying that you are so strong in-game that you can take all comers, regardless of size or strength. Also that you are so strong that your enemy can have unlimited intel about you and you will still emerge victorious. I wish you the best of luck, but it appears you won’t need luck, or strategy, or anything else. I guess this means you’ve won Eve. Congratulations.
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People posting worthwhile threads in C&P usually do so on their mains, as notoriety is one benefit of being a criminal. People shitting up the forum are usually either:
a) Highsec 'merc' or wardec pro-elite (Godsquad, #LSS, etc...)
b) NPC corp toons talking out of their ass.
Khanh’rhh

I disagree with your first statement. In my experience most successful criminals are more successful when they are less known. Notoriety may be fun, and may help stroke your ego, but it does not help you pull off more crimes.
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I agree.
Darius III

Thanks for the support. I think it’s funny that you can post example after example of personal experiences proving my point and people still don’t get it.
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Always post with my main, why... because I will stand by my comments, thus, they have value (well sometimes... mostly I am ranting at crap ideas and whiners in the Proposed Ideas forum)
If someone has a problem, fine, call me out... rant at me back... War-Dec me... its all part of Eve.
Jint Hikaru

I fail to see how posting comments with your main in-game character changes the value of your comments in any way. I’ve never heard of you, so your name carries no more credibility with me than a randomly produced alt name would. The only exception I could see to this would be if you were posting an opinion based on personal experience that could be verified by your killboard. But that’s a pretty limited example.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#87 - 2012-01-27 19:58:54 UTC
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I post with my main. Not like I undock anyway.
Nathan Jameson

Hey, a valid argument. If you never undock your main then you have nothing to lose by making enemies or divulging intel in the forums. Otherwise, you do.
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People who post as alt's or NPC'ed typically are viewed as cowards...because they are immune to war dec and direct attacks in some shape form or fashion. Which means they can only be hunted down by suicide gank (as the majority of them live in high sec as they will never undock hence the reason its offensive.). Those who do such things (posting as an alt) often do so with the intent of evading repercussions for what they are saying...and blatantly boldly hide under a rock which makes them all the more guiltier. In short...posting with your "main" or at least "one of them" means your not afraid to take whatever they are going to throw at you. It's also the respectful thing to do...consequence or not.
Drake Draconis

So to summarize, posting with the same character you expose to in-game danger is a sign of bravery and respect. As for bravery, I have heard many examples of this virtue, but how one posts on a game forum has never been one of them. As for respect, I would have a tough time respecting myself if I were to allow my enemies an advantage by putting my own ego before reasonable precautions. Posting with an alt is just part of the discipline necessary to maximize my gaming experience. Giving away free intel or creating unwanted enemies when it’s not necessary is just silly.
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I post with my main, because I tell what I think with a straight face.
Vaerah Vahrokha

More fantasy cowboy mentality. “I says what I means and means what I says!” That’s wonderful for you. And naïve.
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Post on an alt by all means but it instantly makes your smack, or claims of awesomeness worthless. Intelligent posting by alts is all fine and dandy but the usual reasons are...
Carebear wanabee badass
Coward
Shitposter
Smacktalker with a terrible or non-existent kill record
Lady Spank

I’m going to choose to ignore the implication embodied in the words “all fine and dandy” and shorten your statement to “Intelligent posting by alts is fine.” I also agree that not all alt posts have value, but then again neither do the vast majority of posts done with “mains”. I’d say 95% of all posts/replies in C&P are absolute garbage, alt or main. My argument is that if you are reduced to attacking a post based solely on whether it was posted by an active character rather than the content, you’re already dredging the bottom of the barrel when it comes to legitimate replies.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#88 - 2012-01-27 20:00:10 UTC
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I post with my main because I think y'all will like what I have to say.
And I don't really have an alt except for one relatively skilless alt I park the IEEE with when I need to.
Zedrik Cayne

Carry your explanation a little further please. You think we will like what you have to say… and? Do you expect that we will like what you post and therefore your main will derive some benefit? *confused*
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It's a shame that so much fear is attached to saying what you think and feel. Truly delicious. You know who feels fear, yeah? Cowards. It becomes an obstacle to doing anything at all sometimes. Coupled with the general need to fit in and be a part of the herd, it becomes very easy to see why poeple don't post with their mains. But it also means they lack the intestinal fortitude and conviction to ever be taken seriously as well. In other words, nut up or shut up.
Nephilius

You know who feels fear? Humans… and animals…pretty much anything with a brain. If you are really asserting that you never feel fear, then frankly you’ve already lost all credibility. Bravery is action in the face of fear. If you never feel fear, then how can your actions be brave? But let’s go with this anyway. You are basically claiming that posting with your main shows you are not afraid. Your argument admits there is something to be afraid of and asserts that you are boldly posting with your main despite these dangers. Frankly I think it makes you more of a fool than a hero as there is no benefit gained by taking the risk. You post with your main because you have something to prove? Wow. Just wow.
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Posting whith my main cos i only got one caracter not like faggs dual boxing in PVP one man one gun you bitches !
Tian Nu

If you have not noticed, you can create three characters per account. You do not need to dual box to have an alt. You can post as any of your three alts in the forum.
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Posting with my main to say that I live in nullsec and my only concern about wardecs is that they make my mail icon flash annoyingly with notifications. You are all colossal epeen waving turbofaggots for trying to PvP in highsec, and anyone who chooses to live in lowsec is fucktarded mouth-breathing peasent who's too inbred and stupid to not live in highsec or nullsec. Have some damn self respect at least and move to Syndicate or Curse. Post on your mains, your comrades deserve to suffer any consequences that arise from your forum sperglordery simply due to the fact that they let you into their corp/alliance.
Jafit McJafitson

WTF does posting with an alt have to do with highsec PVP? Take the ads for 0.0 life elsewhere please, along with your forum rules-violating profanity. What a potty-mouth.
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This is my posting main - I also have a trading main, a PvP main and two PvP/PvE alts.
Large Collidable Object

Sensible. In reality, I’d classify PB as my “posting main”, among other uses. Keeping separate chars for separate jobs seems the best policy to me, especially when they conflict so obviously.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#89 - 2012-01-27 20:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
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Posting with my main since 2006~ It's a forum for a spaceship video game, some of you faggots take this way too seriously.
Admiral Pelleon

Can’t you argue that you are the one taking the forums too seriously by insisting on posting with your main character? And again, please watch the language in forums. There are rules ya know. Plus the generalized homophobia really makes me embarrassed for you and those like you.
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*original post adapted to Shakespeare*
Tallian Saotome

Ha! Awesome job. I lol’d.
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I've got nothing to hide and an ego to stroke.
Aiwha

This. If someone could point out a benefit derived by everyone who posts with their main (not just famous players) beyond stroking their own ego, I’m all ears.

One thing I’ve noticed is a complete failure, despite 5 pages of replies, to address the points made in my OP. It gives enemies free intel. No one has argued otherwise. It also exposes your main to flack from powerful and rich enemies. The only argument I’ve heard contrary to this is that it “provides a more target rich environment” or “proves I’m not afraid”. That’s very John Wayne, but frankly is the equivalent of a general offering a weak excuse for fighting on multiple fronts simultaneously. Anyone care to actually respond to my OP point by point?

Sorry for so many posts but the forum gods, in their wisdom, limit posters to 5 quotes per post, and I wanted to respond to most of the replies.

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-01-27 20:47:02 UTC
Protecting your identity is a good way to shield yourself from nasty mean, angry ungroomed men on the internet with sinister intentions, fervently pursuing you in virtual spaceship game, mainly wanting to expunge penetrating and damaging weaponry into your vessels and capsules in an agitated and aggressive manner.

Black Man with Goggles
Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
#91 - 2012-01-27 21:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Admiral Pelleon
Princess Bride wrote:
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Posting with my main since 2006~ It's a forum for a spaceship video game, some of you faggots take this way too seriously.
Admiral Pelleon

Can’t you argue that you are the one taking the forums too seriously by insisting on posting with your main character? And again, please watch the language in forums. There are rules ya know. Plus the generalized homophobia really makes me embarrassed for you and those like you.


Your post is proof positive of you taking this too seriously.

Also, ****** no longer means what you think it means. I'd point you to the 4(I counted!) homosexual corp mates of mine who refer to silly empire trolls like yourself as faggots as well.

Also, your psuedo-moderating of the C&P forum is adorable.

Also, I'd point out that while CCP's forum has moderated the word in this post, it has not in the previous one. If they gave a flying space sausage about language filter, you think they'd fix this, no?

Also, apparently it doesn't censor the word if it has an 's' attached at the end. That's a censor I can get behind. (HUR HUR I MADE A JOKE)

Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#92 - 2012-01-27 21:31:21 UTC
Tian Nu wrote:
you ppl suck at posting whith C*A*P*S

This post reminded me of M*A*S*H 4077

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Ubiquitous Forum Alt
#93 - 2012-01-27 22:08:59 UTC
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
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Posting with my main since 2006~ It's a forum for a spaceship video game, some of you faggots take this way too seriously.
Admiral Pelleon

Can’t you argue that you are the one taking the forums too seriously by insisting on posting with your main character? And again, please watch the language in forums. There are rules ya know. Plus the generalized homophobia really makes me embarrassed for you and those like you.


Your post is proof positive of you taking this too seriously.

Also, ****** no longer means what you think it means. I'd point you to the 4(I counted!) homosexual corp mates of mine who refer to silly empire trolls like yourself as faggots as well.

Also, your psuedo-moderating of the C&P forum is adorable.

Also, I'd point out that while CCP's forum has moderated the word in this post, it has not in the previous one. If they gave a flying space sausage about language filter, you think they'd fix this, no?

Also, apparently it doesn't censor the word if it has an 's' attached at the end. That's a censor I can get behind. (HUR HUR I MADE A JOKE)


You seem REALLY angry about all this.......Shocked

I thought you didn't care? Roll

I don't log in - I don't need to. My very existence griefs people. They see my name, and they instinctively fill with rage and indignation. Deny it all you want - but if you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted, would you?
IsTheOpOver
#94 - 2012-01-28 00:05:54 UTC
I agree with the OP.

In a game where it's much easier to be messed with than prevent being messed with and intel can be extremely valuable, why let your ego put you at a disadvantage?

It's not always about talking chit.
Princess Bride
SharkNado
#95 - 2012-01-28 03:05:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Bride
Admiral Pelleon wrote:
Princess Bride wrote:
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Posting with my main since 2006~ It's a forum for a spaceship video game, some of you faggots take this way too seriously.
Admiral Pelleon

Can’t you argue that you are the one taking the forums too seriously by insisting on posting with your main character? And again, please watch the language in forums. There are rules ya know. Plus the generalized homophobia really makes me embarrassed for you and those like you.


Your post is proof positive of you taking this too seriously.


Wait, I'm taking it too seriously for dodging psychos by using a dedicated posting alt. But, people who insist on posting with their main char, despite the in-game disadvantage, because they're "not afraid" or "internet tough-guys from NYC" ... are not. Is that your assertion? Just want to make sure I'm following.

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Also, ****** no longer means what you think it means. I'd point you to the 4(I counted!) homosexual corp mates of mine who refer to silly empire trolls like yourself as faggots as well.


My post has nothing to do with empire space, or 0.0, or residence at all. It's almost as if declaring someone an "empire" resident is a vague and meaningless insult. Much like what you're trying to assert ****** is. Speaking of which, I reject your assertion that that word no longer carries negative homophobic connotations...regardless of what you think *randomly picked # here* fellow corpies feel about the subject. Yeah, I've seen the same Luis CK special. It was funny. But no, he didn't change the meaning of the word with his comedy speshul, sorry.

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Also, your psuedo-moderating of the C&P forum is adorable.

Also, I'd point out that while CCP's forum has moderated the word in this post, it has not in the previous one. If they gave a flying space sausage about language filter, you think they'd fix this, no?

Also, apparently it doesn't censor the word if it has an 's' attached at the end. That's a censor I can get behind. (HUR HUR I MADE A JOKE)


I simply requested people replying to my post on CCP's forums to follow CCP's rules and also pointed out that using that kind of language really makes them look bad. I'm not entitled to do so? I guess the price of making the request is hearing your sarcastic condescending comment. Well, its a price worth paying to request civil discourse, despite how silly such a request might seem.


Hey, here's an idea... We could self-regulate the use of discriminatory and derragatory language and just have a discussion like people instead of a bunch of anonymous *********s. (SeewhutIdidthar? I made a joke too.)

http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/
Mohr Cowbell
KarmaFleet University
#96 - 2012-01-28 03:09:19 UTC
Not posting with my main.

I like fried chicken and waffles.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#97 - 2012-01-28 03:11:27 UTC
free intel: dear enemy, i have no alts

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Squidgey
Perkone
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-01-31 16:52:59 UTC
Does it count if it is a forum main?

I mean, with so many accounts how can one decide which is truly a main? Hell, my most used character changes weekly. I kind of agree with the princess bride alt up there, but at the end of the day I can just log off and go play Hello Kitty's Island Adventure if I feel threatened by your professional pixels.

If you are going to talk smack on the forums, you should back it up. An alt holds no credibility. If you are going to take internet spaceships so seriously that you think hiding your main really matters, then your main should probably be able to back up your claims.

TLDR: People that hide behind alts aren't that important anyways.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#99 - 2012-01-31 17:09:32 UTC
I always post with my main, theres no point spreading the stupid on multiple accounts is there

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION
Ubiquitous Forum Alt
#100 - 2012-01-31 18:25:14 UTC
Squidgey wrote:
Does it count if it is a forum main?

I mean, with so many accounts how can one decide which is truly a main? Hell, my most used character changes weekly. I kind of agree with the princess bride alt up there, but at the end of the day I can just log off and go play Hello Kitty's Island Adventure if I feel threatened by your professional pixels.

If you are going to talk smack on the forums, you should back it up. An alt holds no credibility. If you are going to take internet spaceships so seriously that you think hiding your main really matters, then your main should probably be able to back up your claims.

TLDR: People that hide behind alts aren't that important anyways.


You appear to be arguing both sides of the argument......As well as growing incredibly hypocritical towards the end as you talk smack on your forum alt...

Please seek immediate help for your multiple personality disorder....I recommend you biomass all of your toons in order to let you focus on your recovery. Its for your own good.

I don't log in - I don't need to. My very existence griefs people. They see my name, and they instinctively fill with rage and indignation. Deny it all you want - but if you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted, would you?