Skill Discussions

1. Why do you need the ISK?

2. Have you considered joining a corp with a good newbie scheme?

3. What do you want to do?

…and what do you need that ISK for? What you're saying here is more an answer to #3.
A good corp will give you guidance, purpose, and aid. They can be tricky to find, but it's worth it.
Ok. None of that requires all that much in terms of SP — what you need is actual skills (well… aside from the PI — for that you just need a hauler and/or alts). So go do it, right now, and start learning. Let your skills grow alongside the SP.

You're aiming a bit high by the sounds of it.

You don't need any of that to get going — you can do it very soon if you just pour time into the key skills. Don't wait to do something until you are at the end, because there is a high risk that you'll end up discovering that this thing you've been aiming for isn't what you imagined it to be, and now you've trained a bunch of skills that you are no longer interested in using.

Do the stuff you're trying for while training. Pretty much everything in the game has a “starter” version that you can use as training wheels. In your case, the one exception is probably a covops-cloak ship, but it's not that long a haul: the only real kind-of-slogs are [racial] Frigate V and Electronic Upgrades V, both rank 2 skills taking ~1½ week each.

In particular, that PI gantry is something you need to plan out a bit better. Chances are you will lose it a couple of times before making it stick, and it's not really an individual investment/activity. While you might have it as some kind of end goal, play with PI using the available planets and facilities while figuring out if it's worth it.

Man this thread contains some lovely personalities. I really admire your patience, Tippia.

As boring as it is, this is the reason why I got into mining. Now I mine to make steady isk while train for more interesting stuff.

It's true that the isk per hour is pathetic when compared with well about anything other than running missions however if you have RL distractions (kids for example) it appears to be the best route.

If your the guy with an ungodly amount of free time and no distractions then I'd suggest going straight pvp. A rifter, afterburner and web should get you started. Just keep in mind you won't be able to do solo pvp, need a decent corp as your rifter is gonna die and often but at least you'll get a share of the loot. Keep working on skills and slowly move up the pirate ranks.

I used a T1 scanning frigate for a very long time when I was living in w-space. I ended-up living there for 2.5 years.

In fact, I still have 2 or 3 of them in my hangar (kept since I Gravity rigged them).

At racial frigate 4 skill and fitted with a prototype cloak, they are perfectly adequate.


That is really a corporate endeavor, not an individual one.

That is actually brilliant.

I want to try that just for the LMAO fun.

To do what with?

You need isk to:

1: Buy ships.
2: To make more money.
3: See 1.

See where this is going?

If none of the things on that WTD list helped you out, you may consider playing another game.

It looks like you want to be a mission runner to pay for pvp.

I suggest you learn to salvage first. Offer your service to L4 runners.
Make a lot more isk then you would make on your own in the near future.

Take the time to learn what/how/why they do what they do and what ships they use to do it.

Then take your few hundred million and get to becomming one of them. Salvage your own stuff with ease until it becomes faster for you to hire a salvager of your own.

Or just jump to the incursions once you get your BS skill and ship ready.