EVE General Discussion

Or wait, did your post mean nerf guardians?

Neither.

I was saying that RR BS Fleets typically don't have a Logistics (or whats the point really of sacrificing that extra utility high)- and the best way to break them up, is to get them out of their tight little group as jumping them through a gate would (do I really need to explain this?)

Come on EP your smarter then this..

Have you flown a Cane?

1. nerf the Tornado - Ok, post a thread about this and provide arguments. But, just because there might be Tornado blobs, is not a good argument to not nerf the drake.

2. The removal of the resist bonus does nerf the EHP of the Drake. What exactly are you suggesting? Not much room to subtract actual shield hp on the Drake and keep it at "normal Battlecruiser levels." The ehp is mostly coming from the resist bonus. It goes and the ehp goes with it. Or maybe you are confusing ehp with pve regen tanking? In that case I would bet that an overall BC shield regen nerf is coming as well for all BCs anyway.

3. Heavy missile range- agreed. With skills heavy missiles put more damage out farther than any medium gun with equivalent skills. To even get comparable medium gun range to heavy missile range you need tech II gun ammo. And even then the 7 missiles will beat the 7 medium guns for dps at the extreme end of gun range. Of course at 10km or less theoretical ideal medium gun damage will overtake HM damage but then tracking comes into play in comparing say gleam v fury.

Regardless, as with an overall BC shield regen nerf possibility, there have been statements about reducing overall HM range. This could be why the Drake may also be getting a missile velocity bonus to replace its present bonuses. A velocity bonus would give HAMs a boost while the velocity bonus coupled with say a flight time reduction for all HM would not give a HM Drake any more range than it already has, simply preserve the current range + or - some amount.

We simply will not know what the Drake may look like til it hits the test server. And that new (nerfed is not really the best word, more like trimmed/refocused) Drake will probably not be the only new balancing alteration. It is enough though that the devs finally said, we can't have Drakes being the never-ending go to ship for pve and even pvp. It has had been the quickest route to level 4s and been a pvp fleet BS equivalent/alternative for too way long. Seriously, let's wait to see what collection of balancing changes hit the test server.

So what your saying is Tier 2 Battlecruisers with Logi Support should be able to take out Tier 3 Battleships with Logi Support?

My point was, RR BS gangs normally DON'T have logisitics ships, otherwise your wasting utility slots with pointless remote repairs when you could use, you know another gun or a neut, or something more useful.

*IF* you can bait a RR BS (Remote-Repair Battleship since you obviously don't know what that means) gang through a gate, and have them scattered 20km away from each other, they don't have reps anymore, and if their opponents are flying the standard PODLA nano drakes (scram + webs), they arn't getting back to the gates either.

Please tell me the original EP sold his character, and you are the semi-******** new owner.

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