EVE New Citizens Q&A

i heard those make a decent profit .
I readed a bit about them , but whats the fastest way to get into them?
Whats the first ship i need for those ?
Were to find fleet for it and avoid being scamed ? (heard such things happen also)
Would like to try them out . Thanks for any help .

thanks , i know that guide . Well to get everything you listed will take quite some months , seems quite a while hoped faster but i expected smthing like that .

Thanks for reply :)

I understand :)

Was looking for ways of making isk . like everyone else also in need of those , and i think i aint making enough , or could get more .
Well will keep looking for some other way .
And someday prob will also try incursions :)

it may not seem so but im a lot more new as it appear .

i atm doing lvl 2 , i could get lvl 3 pretty soon , but i doubt i could handle lvl 3 . I rushed to some extent and can fly much stuff , but rlly bad , so have quite a bunch of skills to train for my overall combat usefulness , like core ones (mehanic energy electronic ) well the base stuff .
(and there is isk i think lvl 2 have kinda low rewards in isk wise :| or its maybe me )
hopefully will get good enough in overall and will be able to handly lvl3 soon so can get a increase income .

I liked the idea of exploration and luck , i mean just while training skills doing smthing intresting with the possibility to hit the jackpot seemed nice ...
But lots of stuff i readed about it to do it right you need some skills also . Best choice for those was a good fitted pilgrim . And for that there is still a lot of training to do :)

Had a salvager ship and used to do it for my own mission runing , in a coercer .

When i said i need isk i meant a bigger quantitiy , like millions .
Was looking to some extent what POS PI could offer , but those are an investment i cannot afford yet with so little knowledge . I would like something like that invest and have a flow of money which would repay itself and generate an income .

Or like incursions those offer a couple of millions in 1 hour afaik ?
Mining wouldnt be so bad if the profits were at least Decent :|
Trading seemed the best route but atm not much succes , trying still to get the hang of that part of gameplay .
Scaming seemed a good way also , but its either to stupid and i cba spam chats selling 1 trit for 700 milions , would like to know how many fall for such thing in a week :D
Some elaborate scams and real money makers are those which need dedication and lots lots of time , (like the guy which had the scam of 800 bilions ? thats for sure some money making :D )

So such things i was looking into about lately .

no doubt some of the nicest and helpfull people ever meet ingame were from eve , strangers even , or those who killed you , i got some great tips and advices after i got killed .

Well now that i think of it salvaging lvl 4 missions does seem like a better idea then salvage my own lvl 1 2 .
I have the equipment tractoer beams , salvage , probe launchers , probes need only the coercer :D

How can i find a system with some good lvl 4 agents ? To start with ? :) i may give this one a try today .

I never really understood why people in EVE are looking for this "I need billions of ISK daily" path. Where does this rush come from? It's a MMO game, where character develops slowly. When you start earning billions per day, where will be the fun of play? Why not take it easy and just do stuff, earning ISK as you go? You don't need expensive ships (this won't give you much advantage) or your own POS to play and have fun. Just "live" in this world and your virtual wealth will come with time. You have years, even decades (assuming CCP will not abandon EVE in the near future) for that. I think the main goal of this game is player interaction, not to make billions of ISK quickly. And it gives you the tools and mechanics to fulfill that. It's not that bigger ship and fat wallet will make this game more interesting.
Or maybe my understanding of this game is completely inaccurate and I'm doing all wrong...

Everyone wants to learn how to spend (some) time productively so they get ISK to pay for that next shiny ship/module they are skilling for.

So I see nothing wrong in a newbie trying to figure out the potential ways in making ISK with the limited skills he has. Heck, try them all and see yourself what you like most and what gives a good income. The only real barrier is that some activities require a bunch of skills and perhaps some initial ISK investment.

Having that ISK for the initial investment so you can try all the different options is a real hurdle and if you don't have an early corp that tosses some ISK / ships / skillbooks at you, it is perfectly understandable to first look for good ISK making schemes. An old player may be able to toss 200 mil to the wallet of his newbie alt and not think about it, being then able to do whatever such a low skill character can do without limitations. Real newbies (first char) can't do that. Many forget this...

there are more path then 1 to greatness
if you got patience you will amass the wealth of empires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNyfI4dv1dg&list=PLF614A7A6461E61E1&index=24&feature=plpp_video

This what i was talking about :)
and Jarnis is right . I dont have 200 millions . Heck even 10 milion is a lot . When my ship cost 50 . And the ones i can fly (BS LOT more ) while missions which i was currently runing give 100k or 200k .

Having a bigger income would make stuff lot easier , and wana have fun while doing that .

I'm not saying that aiming at making huge amounts of money is bad. I just don't understand why people want this ASAP. To fly expensive ships you need in-game skills (to get in the ship and fit right modules) and player skills (to use it all propertly). Learning in-game skills takes time (real time) and learning player skills takes much more than that. Most new players I know rush to battleships, caps etc. to make more money. Maybe you're right and that's just another way to play this game, but I still think that focusing on activities is more fun than watching your wallet going crazy with numbers.
Yes, there is a general rule: "don't fly ships you can't afford to lose". But in this case it means: "skill smaller ships and learn to use them effectively", not "earn as much as you can and more to be able to replace them". Reckless flying, backed up by fat wallet (you can always buy a new ship, right?) is a recipe for failure.
Amass the Empire, yes, but with time, gaining trust, making connections, being succesful in battles etc.
But, my philosophy is not The Right One And Only(tm), so you're probably right. I just wonder at loud, that's all.