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okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-01-19 00:12:54 UTC
Human Friend wrote:
Dont give him too much stuff for nothing. Making your first 10 mil should make you feel like you are the riches badass around. In an MMO there should always be a feeling of accomplishing something, getting stuff TOO easy can actually set you off from a game.

yeah
thats a problem..it would be easy to give him billions..but he has not the skills.

I really cannot teach him the right way to play that game...I got used to it.. and I am a desperate Highsec Carebear.
Difficult to tell him how awesome other aspects of the game are, if you WANT to do them..

[X] < Nail here for new monitor
met worst
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-01-19 00:13:48 UTC
okst666 wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
not another one of these threads



please lead to the other thread were it all has been discussed before than posting unqualified stuff.

Don't be so rude. Dbars is a vet with a high repute and sharp intellect and deliberately posted his one-liner to bump your thread because it is so worthy.

Goons do it to me ALL the time Twisted
BLACK-STAR
#23 - 2012-01-19 00:14:20 UTC
hey take him for a mission level 2-3, and if you choose to use something that has drones, put a few rep drones on him so he won't instantly blow up to something.

Fit him with a rifter or kestrel. He can learn about buying modules and fits after he soaks up the massive amount of information to comprehend his first week.

Tutorials give away free skill books too.

Before you take him out, make sure you first explain to him how to target things.... and what currently is targeted (spinning arrows). New players commonly shoot the wrong thing or friendly drones, structures and concord kills them in a mission or something ridiculous.


Another thing to do is show him wormholes, tour around in a cheap ships and explore the environments. Show him Jita, visit the trade hub. Show him EVE landmarks and take him for ratting belts on incursion systems.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#24 - 2012-01-19 00:17:17 UTC
okst666 wrote:
Human Friend wrote:
Dont give him too much stuff for nothing. Making your first 10 mil should make you feel like you are the riches badass around. In an MMO there should always be a feeling of accomplishing something, getting stuff TOO easy can actually set you off from a game.

yeah
thats a problem..it would be easy to give him billions..but he has not the skills.

I really cannot teach him the right way to play that game...I got used to it.. and I am a desperate Highsec Carebear.
Difficult to tell him how awesome other aspects of the game are, if you WANT to do them..




If your gonna go the alt route why not start at 0isk again and see how it goes, you don't have to give yourself access to your mains wallet.

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-01-19 00:20:49 UTC  |  Edited by: okst666
met worst wrote:
okst666 wrote:
Dbars Grinding wrote:
not another one of these threads



please lead to the other thread were it all has been discussed before than posting unqualified stuff.

Don't be so rude. Dbars is a vet with a high repute and sharp intellect and deliberately posted his one-liner to bump your thread because it is so worthy.

Goons do it to me ALL the time Twisted


ok I am sorry..Dbars..was not meant to be rude!

[X] happy place.

however..I think that was the first thread in this forum that acutally helped someone...and I will give it a go cloaky in a mission with a friend just telling him what to do and bring him through! I

I really appreciated all your answers! You may be the bitterest vets...but you are stille the best.

[X] < Nail here for new monitor
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#26 - 2012-01-19 00:25:13 UTC
okst666 wrote:
I showed the new crucible trailer to some friends today.. they are not very affine with MMOs and gaming and such,
but after watching a friend said wow..that looks very cool.. and after I said to him he could play it a few weeks for free he was all for registering and giving it a try.

I said..."wow cool .. we can fly together and I show you how it works.."


now I am in bed and rethink what I said...
What should I show him... how i pwn everything with 60 million skillpoints in a level1 mission..even in a frig while he is crying because he got fried..
Or take him to a level4 with me...showing my 6 billion uberawesome machariel killing a whole fleet with one shot while he is still aligning to the accelartion gate..

Mining?!...come on.. Flying into 0 won't work out well to I guess..

really.. I need Ideas what to do with a total newbie to amaze him for the game, if you're self are a very very bitter vet, that saw all, were everywhere and even bought his tshirts himself.. :/

how would you attract friends to the game?



My recommendation:

Take them to lowsec and show them the dark side BEFORE they have a lot to lose and learn the hard way.

And then tell that THAT is what the game is really all about, but they don't have to do it that way, but be wary of the choice and engage the game for what it is: being the ass that gets kicked or the boot that kicks it and THAT is the name of the game but there is still room to be a white hat if that's their speed.

I recall a stepson, carebear to the MAX that I brought to EvE but didn't say a thing about anything, and his EvE career ended in the most epic ragequit with him (over 18 years old at the time, BTW) jumping up and down screaming "that's it!!!1! I'm not playing this game any more".

(that was 2006 and I still laugh myself silly when I remember that).

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
met worst
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-01-19 00:33:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
My recommendation:

Take them to lowsec and show them the dark side BEFORE they have a lot to lose and learn the hard way.

And then tell that THAT is what the game is really all about, but they don't have to do it that way, but be wary of the choice and engage the game for what it is: being the ass that gets kicked or the boot that kicks it and THAT is the name of the game but there is still room to be a white hat if that's their speed.

I recall a stepson, carebear to the MAX that I brought to EvE but didn't say a thing about anything, and his EvE career ended in the most epic ragequit with him (over 18 years old at the time, BTW) jumping up and down screaming "that's it!!!1! I'm not playing this game any more".

(that was 2006 and I still laugh myself silly when I remember that).


Gawd, bought back memories.

I was the massive mining carebear 3 years back.. 15yr son made more coin than me being a "bad boy". I pulled the "moral argument" and told him to stop "beating up on players" and help me make some isk - by mining!!

We had a big fight/ragequit and he's never played since.

Told him only last week I'll give him a faction fit Loki, 3b isk and we can go on 0.0 roams. Answer was no. We had another argument until I threw him out. (Well he is 18 now and knows WAY more than I do)

True story bro'.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-01-19 09:24:15 UTC
met worst wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
My recommendation:

Take them to lowsec and show them the dark side BEFORE they have a lot to lose and learn the hard way.

And then tell that THAT is what the game is really all about, but they don't have to do it that way, but be wary of the choice and engage the game for what it is: being the ass that gets kicked or the boot that kicks it and THAT is the name of the game but there is still room to be a white hat if that's their speed.

I recall a stepson, carebear to the MAX that I brought to EvE but didn't say a thing about anything, and his EvE career ended in the most epic ragequit with him (over 18 years old at the time, BTW) jumping up and down screaming "that's it!!!1! I'm not playing this game any more".

(that was 2006 and I still laugh myself silly when I remember that).


Gawd, bought back memories.

I was the massive mining carebear 3 years back.. 15yr son made more coin than me being a "bad boy". I pulled the "moral argument" and told him to stop "beating up on players" and help me make some isk - by mining!!

We had a big fight/ragequit and he's never played since.

Told him only last week I'll give him a faction fit Loki, 3b isk and we can go on 0.0 roams. Answer was no. We had another argument until I threw him out. (Well he is 18 now and knows WAY more than I do)

True story bro'.


Wait...you throw your son out because he refused to play eve with you?
Now that's what I call a dedicated player. CCP should give you a medal or something like that...

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-01-19 10:09:18 UTC
do what people in all mmos do after recruiting a friend - roll a new character and "level up" together with your friend for the first few weeks.
McRoll
Extraction and Exploration Ltd.
#30 - 2012-01-19 10:15:02 UTC
If I were you, I would show him exactly that what separates Eve from generic MMO's. Show him the sandbox possibilities.

- take him into a mission
- show him how to salvage
- how to scan out plexes and do one with him
- show him how to scan out missioners and ninjaloot there
- rvb is a good idea
- show him the industry side, how a ship is made from the beginning, that includes mining, refining, bpos and such
- show him PI
- try to scam somebody
- set up a suicide gank

.....

and everything else I didnt tniink about. If the game is for him, he will recognize it.
Fat Buddah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-01-19 10:47:30 UTC
Let him do his Lv1 mission in a frig, while you mine next to him..in a frig.

Then give him the ores so he can refine some and sell to the market, while using some himself for manufacturing basic stuff; ammo for example should only take minutes.

That's four aspects of EVE gameplay in one go.

Then take your friend to a suicide gank run.
Xi 'xar
Rift Watch
#32 - 2012-01-19 11:34:28 UTC
I'm going to start sounding like an Agony Unleashed advertiser soon... (I recently wrote this in another subforum)

Buy him a couple skillbooks, set his queue for him, give him some fitted frigates and send him (on your account) out on agony's pvp basic roam. Flying around with 100 other T1 frigs, kicking ass and seeing how awesome fleet combat can be should inspire him to partake in the grind for a bit.

http://herdingwolves.wordpress.com/
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2012-01-19 11:36:58 UTC
The question is not how to attract them but how to keep them...

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-01-19 11:40:05 UTC
okst666 wrote:
how would you attract friends to the game?

Buy a character from the bazaar so they won't have to wait for years to be able to do the things you can do.
Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#35 - 2012-01-19 11:41:17 UTC
fit out a noob ship and do lvl 1's in it with him, its acule kinda fun once and a wile( i have a faction/DED fit noob frigg for just this). Before to long try to get him in a cepter, take him on the gurista/angel story arc. That will leave him with a huge pile of cash he earned, not a gift will help to not fell like a drain on you and show them a way to make cash and see New Eden.

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
TuonelanOrja
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-01-19 12:00:50 UTC
Some say he is EVE veteran

Not a veteran, just bitter..
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2012-01-19 12:26:47 UTC
I took a few friends into the game, they managed to figure out how to fly and do missions and such.
after a while one of them got killed in low sec by pirates. We formed up and using him as bait with points we
killed the pirate and fought a few of his friends.


They where hooked after that (the noob also did a damn good job of keeping point on him despite low cap and being shot at). until I took them to 0.0 and they got bored. They still talk of the day they fought that pirate even though they stopped playing a year ago. So perhaps low sec/faction warfare/missions can be an interesting first launch into eve?

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#38 - 2012-01-19 16:11:24 UTC
If you introduced them through a trailer, it's a lost cause. EVE has never lived up to a trailer, ever.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#39 - 2012-01-19 16:36:14 UTC
I wonder what would happen if one of use got a noob and made said noob think that simply blowing up other peoples stuff was what the game was all about. Would we be creating a monster?

Twisted

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-01-19 16:45:13 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I wonder what would happen if one of use got a noob and made said noob think that simply blowing up other peoples stuff was what the game was all about. Would we be creating a monster?

Twisted


I think you would create an average eve player.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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