EVE General Discussion

"Cloak Hunters: CCP brought up the possibility of a future cloak-hunting ship or mechanic as a hypothetical; this was described as ‘more like finding a submarine than pulling a blanket off’ a cloaked ship. The CSM was cautiously positive about the idea of a cloak-hunting vessel of some kind."


The whole point of cloakes is psychological warfare and/or catching your enemies with their pants down. And as I assume this cloak hunter will also be viable for combat (to fight those pesky cloakers), my fear is that every gatecamp and fleet over 5 will have one, thus being aware that there is a cloaked ship around them. This would most likely render stealth bombers (even more) useless, as all ships would either be ready to jump/warp or ready to burn toward anything that decloakes.

My friend and I recently killed a tornado just 100km away from a claw and a daredevil. We went in, used some time to get a nice spot and bombed, pointed, and torped him to death. If they were aware that we were there, the claw and/or daredevil would have been ontop of us in just a few seconds. We used stealth, which we are about to lose, to catch and kill that tornado.

I don't care how weak or powerfull this cloak hunter will be, the only thing that matter is that they know we're there. If CCP make this ship and don't also somehow buff bombers, bombers will only be usefull for POS bashing due to low amount of solo t3 battlecruiser and battleships without small drones.

"Don't fix what isn't broken." If you NEED to find a counter to AFK cloaking, find something else.

P.S.: Bombers = stealth bombers.

Don't break what doesn't need fixing.

I still dont understand why anyone gives a **** if someone is afk and cloaked.

Is it because they can't scan down an easy afk kill to grow their epeen?

First of all, I doubt that. This is a anti-AFK cloaking move anyways.

But let's assume you're right:
I jump to that gatecamp with my friend, start to get a good position (this is where they would most likely know we're there) on the tornado, and start bombing. Seconds later we got a claw and a daredevil untop of us.

This change would destroy those invaluable few seconds of confusion that cloaks cause.

It's a hypothetical idea the may happen in the future. They also know that local needs looking at. It's far too early to judge what may, or may not happen tbh.

See me seeing you if I have to have a hard to fit module or a T2 hull to do it realy wont help that claw as longe as just the user can spot you for a sec or two. Also it will probly be ping based and take time so it may acule get you kills as some one goes off of the group trying to ping you down

Yes, good afk cloakers get a safe spot. Will these ships be able to find people that are off grid? Who knows. It's really all conjecture at this point, and it just seems to me that the analogy they used "like finding a submarine" would be more of a "radar signature in a certain direction" thing. I could be completely wrong though and it could have a module that when detonated decloaks all ships within a 400km radius around it ;)

My random crack pot guess is- a new type of fighter that can and will only engage cloaked ships in sov space that is not yours on the 1st and 15th on any month.

We used more than 5 minutes going from warpin to a fitting spot for attack. They would know we were there and ruin our chances to attack AND survive (suicide bombing will still work).

Other than that, it sounds like an amazing idea!

Hmmm, good point... I wouldn't want to see stealth bombing gameplay ruined. Perhaps a module that ONLY detects cloakers if they've been cloaked and motionless for some time would be more appropriate. Say there's this "residual signature" that builds up around a cloaked ship that isn't moving, and the longer you sit, the easier and faster someone can detect you. If you move, this signature quickly dissipates.

'Course, people could set their speed to 5m/sec and slowly drift out of their safe spot while they're AFK to counter such a mechanic, so there'd have to be more to it than that.