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Incursion Interdiction CONTINUES THIS FRIDAY!: Oh, you lost your nightmare?

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2012-01-18 23:14:05 UTC
Requiescat wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Unless it's first class there's no reason to like CCP Cool


hey m8 how you been? muffins opened back up, interested in a reunion tour?



Hell yes, Muffins were some of the most fun times I've had in Eve. I'll start my 24 hour role removal

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
VIncent Vance
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-01-18 23:45:41 UTC
hmm, I wonder what Nexa Necis would say if he were still playing eve. Cool
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-01-19 00:20:21 UTC
Recoil Happens wrote:
Krissy, so uninformed....

The poor saps your fleet of fake logis let be slaughtered by the inc rats are not generally from the incursions network, so they have no one with whom to share their killmails. They are just ppl who come along and don't yet know enough about incursions to seek a fleet in any other place than the worst place possible, CCP incursion network. Being blacklisted from the incursion network places of communication only leaves you a limited place from which to recruit, not your victims, but the victims of the weps of the incursion rats who do your ganking for you - making you barely even a simple ganker, once removed and STILL with issues.

And that vid - pitiful... if the producer of that submitted that as a piece of work for a grade at the community college's remedial videographic workshop held in the back of "Clyde's Classy Computers of Comfort, vid rentals and laundromat" - it would be laughed at for being sad, not funny. And the comments... Is the average age of mental development (which has nothing to do with how many anniversaries of their mother's labor have passed) about 12 or 13? Just barely discovering puberty, but not knowing what to do with it? And yes, many 25 year old bodies contain 12 year old minds so don't use physical age as a defense for the childish behaviors.

You are just a butthurt carebear who got confused and let your character go the way of that closetful of bashed up Barbie Dolls you have and now when you really wanna play with the adults, you are stuck with kiddies of laser tag.

YES! You are a BOO HOO BEAR! May we just call you crybear for short?

"WAHHH WAHHH - They won't play like I tell them to and YOU (CCP) WON"T DO ANYTHING TO MAKE 'EM DO WHAT I SAY!!! WAHHH and boo hoo"

"whats that - shhh, don't talk about moongoo monopolies and low sec incursion milking by SOV holders now"

I hope this won't leave a scar, sweetie...


Do you require oxygen? Perhaps the high horse is simply too high. Blacklisting is a joke anyway.

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#44 - 2012-01-19 00:21:10 UTC
get down with the sickness....

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Requiescat
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-01-19 04:22:04 UTC
VIncent Vance wrote:
hmm, I wonder what Nexa Necis would say if he were still playing eve. Cool


honestly? nah. there's plenty of drama going on already, no need for any more

attn: ccp. wtb: popcorn emote

hi i'm requiescat, and i'm your best friend♥
L Salander
All Web Investigations
#46 - 2012-01-19 08:00:12 UTC
Hisec bears buttmad at and fighting other hisec bears. I like it.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#47 - 2012-01-19 20:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: FloppieTheBanjoClown
I have a new idea for balancing incursions. Posting here rather than making a new thread.

Farming at any level of incursion sites should lead to a reduction in that class of site. If you farm vanguards, there should be fewer vanguard and more assault/hq sites the next day. It makes sense: if you're repeatedly being beaten with one invasion plan, you try a different one. if scout sites are being ignore, spawn more scout sites. Make it so that the invasion force adapts to the incursioners, creating a dynamic battlefield where you have to regularly change strategies in order to make the best isk.

Also, if it's possible, have the entire incursion react to common fittings. There was discussion of variation in the CSM notes, both in ship types and loadouts (dps versus ewar). Look at the total number of player ships in all the sites (logi versus DPS) and make fleet composition decisions based on that. Once again, create a dynamic action/reaction scenario.

edit: some of these arguments are hilarious when you know who a lot of the alts really are.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2012-01-20 03:47:59 UTC
You know ... People been arguing that incursions are no risk pve and thus should be nerfed.

If players have truly lost 200 ships to other players alone ...

Then you have proven there is a very big risk to incurions and thus they should be BUFFED.



Thanks bro's for clearing that up Big smile
carmelos53
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-01-20 03:56:00 UTC  |  Edited by: carmelos53
I really don't get why people are upset by this thread. Incursions are there for everyone to do. Bears and griefers alike. Eve is a sandbox game and they pay their monthly fees so by that fact alone if they want to kill all moms they should.

Granted on the other side of the coin many chars use incursions to plex and ending an Inc that early will definitely put a small dent to anyone runny many toons.
This would mean ccp makes less $$$ meaning less employees. So in reality not only are you hurting the player base you, by the same logic, hurting ccp.


Meh to each their own.
Jorn Isu
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#50 - 2012-01-20 04:57:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorn Isu
Cedo Nulli wrote:
You know ... People been arguing that incursions are no risk pve and thus should be nerfed.

If players have truly lost 200 ships to other players alone ...

Then you have proven there is a very big risk to incurions and thus they should be BUFFED.



Thanks bro's for clearing that up Big smile

They lost 200 ships to clever fleet planning, not dissimilar to AWOX. By your logic, every undocked activity in the game is risky. And it is. But it's all relative. The point is that, despite the rewards being much better than, say, mission running, Incursions are not significantly more risky than mission running.

By the way, I didn't get in on the other thread in time, can one of you incurbears ban me from your incursion channel?
Krissada
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#51 - 2012-01-20 08:29:45 UTC
carmelos53 wrote:


Granted on the other side of the coin many chars use incursions to plex and ending an Inc that early will definitely put a small dent to anyone runny many toons.


Wait wait ... so you are saying we can make PLEX prices drop?
.... ******* A!

Incursion Interdiction: Now improving PLEX prices for the better!
Endeavour Starfleet
#52 - 2012-01-20 09:18:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
You missed the small yet important detail that with reduced prices PLEX supply will drop.

Yet, Don't let this messily detail cloud your full of yourself attitude now that mister "Incursion CSM" and his Brick idiots are helping you.

The only thing you are helping is his voting out of the CSM.

BTW do fire your video editor.
Rasz Lin
#53 - 2012-01-20 15:24:05 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
No seriously. I actually went hoping to listen to idiots who don't check blacklists and don't pay attention to current events screaming for reps. Instead I heard you idiots.

Fail edit is fail.


this
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-01-20 15:49:17 UTC
Requiescat wrote:
Darius III wrote:
Because our overlords at CCP are too stupid to give incursions their own subforum.


m8

Darius III wrote:
Then again, when you think about it, maybe thats a good thing. After hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in the LAST forum change they just made junk product with security holes. CCP is really a shoddy outfit-if you look at their end results. The people working for CCP are mostly knowledgeable, hard working people but somewhere along the chain their input gets muted and some douche in marketing makes the final decisions.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.


i think my sentiments mirror that one dude's in the other thread. bro you got a free trip to iceland at least you could pretend not to hate ccp

He is only pretending to hate CCP because it will give him street cred among the Internet Tough Guys. If he really hated CCP, then he would unsubscribe and perhaps try to convince other players to do the same, or perhaps try to sabotage the company in some way outside of the game. He isn't doing that. He's talking on the forums provided for by CCP, about the game produced by CCP, with other players who are also subscribed to CCP's services.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-01-20 15:50:38 UTC
Jorn Isu wrote:
Cedo Nulli wrote:
You know ... People been arguing that incursions are no risk pve and thus should be nerfed.

If players have truly lost 200 ships to other players alone ...

Then you have proven there is a very big risk to incurions and thus they should be BUFFED.



Thanks bro's for clearing that up Big smile

They lost 200 ships to clever fleet planning, not dissimilar to AWOX. By your logic, every undocked activity in the game is risky. And it is. But it's all relative. The point is that, despite the rewards being much better than, say, mission running, Incursions are not significantly more risky than mission running.

By the way, I didn't get in on the other thread in time, can one of you incurbears ban me from your incursion channel?

I am admittedly uninformed about Incursions. Can you tell me how they're superior to missions in terms of generating wealth for the player running them? Thanks in advance.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2012-01-20 16:18:13 UTC
video would be a lot better without 2 minutes of nonsense at the start. Get to cinema once - you will see how real people do it.

and then... didn't see any pvp there.... just fail of fleet against rats. shoudl i watch up to the end to see something of 4 minutes is enough?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-01-21 00:00:38 UTC
Can we do this again tomorrow when the incursions start again? Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#58 - 2012-01-21 00:21:56 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Can we do this again tomorrow when the incursions start again? Big smile




PLEASE!!

I was on the heels of the fleet today and just arrived at the gate for the second one when it ended.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Xenuria
#59 - 2012-01-21 00:32:25 UTC
All according to plan....

CSM 12 Candidate
Findail
Quid Plorus
#60 - 2012-01-21 02:23:10 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
I have a new idea for balancing incursions. Posting here rather than making a new thread.

Farming at any level of incursion sites should lead to a reduction in that class of site. If you farm vanguards, there should be fewer vanguard and more assault/hq sites the next day. It makes sense: if you're repeatedly being beaten with one invasion plan, you try a different one. if scout sites are being ignore, spawn more scout sites. Make it so that the invasion force adapts to the incursioners, creating a dynamic battlefield where you have to regularly change strategies in order to make the best isk.

Also, if it's possible, have the entire incursion react to common fittings. There was discussion of variation in the CSM notes, both in ship types and loadouts (dps versus ewar). Look at the total number of player ships in all the sites (logi versus DPS) and make fleet composition decisions based on that. Once again, create a dynamic action/reaction scenario.

edit: some of these arguments are hilarious when you know who a lot of the alts really are.


That should probably be extended to cover ALL forms of farming - sleepers, sanctums, etc.
e.g. farming sleepers in a C5 reduces it to a C4, then C3, etc. Farming a sanctum respawns lower value anomalies...