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They won't stop at nerfing the Drake...
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#101 - 2012-01-24 23:49:43 UTC
If you ask me and no one ever does, time to dust off the old dominix for missions.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#102 - 2012-01-24 23:52:11 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy mother of all ragefits.
It needed more capitals tbh. P

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#103 - 2012-01-24 23:53:42 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy mother of all ragefits.
It needed more capitals tbh. P

Those just feel tacky. Lyr's post feels like was full of genuine, wonderful rage. I need to start collecting these things.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Mag's
Azn Empire
#104 - 2012-01-25 00:02:59 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy mother of all ragefits.
It needed more capitals tbh. P

Those just feel tacky. Lyr's post feels like was full of genuine, wonderful rage. I need to start collecting these things.
You have a good point there. One thing I have noticed though, Lyrr has been played like a fiddle in this thread and doesn't even realise it.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#105 - 2012-01-25 00:04:00 UTC
For ****'s sake...

I am sick-unto-death of repeating myself to blind screaming fools...

The Drake is not even remotely over-powered.

Look up the turret-tracking formula, and plug that small-city-size sig radius into the equation, then do the same for the missile-damage formula, and understand that yes, it has a heavy shield-tank, but that it also needs to make full use thereof.

No sig-tanking here, no matter how fast you get it going!

That sig-bloat, combined with the fact that even dual-nano'ed, it's not super-fast is what balances it's raw on-paper tank. If HM/nano-Drakes were as fast as a Tengu or Hurricane, then, arguably, yes, it would be over-powered. It isn't, ergo sum, it isn't.

It's DPS is middle of the road--at best--with HMs, and you lose 30% if you switch out damage types from Kinetics, plus the delayed damage of missiles balances out it's range. Other ships can be fit to hit much, much harder, much more quickly at similar ranges (Arty-Nado, hello?), whilst being just as fast or in some cases, much faster.

HAM-Drake: He must fight in scram/web/neut range, again loses DPS from switching damage types, and no sig/speed tank in that configuration. Plus, fitting-issues/gimping (ACR Rig + Reactor Control II needed, and near-max fitting skills) if you want to fit a medium neut, which all the other BCs can do much more easily.

Try turning off EFT/Pyfa, and actually using the damned ship before you scream for it to be nerfed.

For ****'s sake...

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#106 - 2012-01-25 00:06:42 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy mother of all ragefits.
It needed more capitals tbh. P


Reading comprehension, and sarcasm-detection much?

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#107 - 2012-01-25 00:11:37 UTC
Jack Corigan wrote:
The Drake is overplayed and ruins the experience of eve. The tank is seriously overpowered and way too many people hide behind it. There is a lot of other fascinating ships out there that players ignore because a drake feels like a safter option.


Why does this matter, even if true?

You don't like it, no-one's forcing you to fly it.

No-one's forcing you not to come up with ways to counter/beat it, either, of which there are many.

Sig-radius : tank : speed--know it, live it, love it, and use it to help you kill those Drakes you hate so much.

Ni.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#108 - 2012-01-25 00:12:18 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy mother of all ragefits.
It needed more capitals tbh. P


Reading comprehension, and sarcasm-detection much?
Obviously you haven't.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#109 - 2012-01-25 00:13:17 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Jack Corigan wrote:
The Drake is overplayed and ruins the experience of eve. The tank is seriously overpowered and way too many people hide behind it. There is a lot of other fascinating ships out there that players ignore because a drake feels like a safter option.


Why does this matter, even if true?

You don't like it, no-one's forcing you to fly it.

No-one's forcing you not to come up with ways to counter/beat it, either, of which there are many.

Sig-radius : tank : speed--know it, live it, love it, and use it to help you kill those Drakes you hate so much.



I think you should shoot more of your emotional pain into this thread.

Seriously.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#110 - 2012-01-25 00:18:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy mother of all ragefits.



My ability to suffer fools atrophies more and more as I age.

E: Oh, and if other 1337-PvP'ers consider airing that as "being played," well then...It's axiomatic that humans believe what they want to believe, so have at it!

Ni.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#111 - 2012-01-25 00:19:35 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Jack Corigan wrote:
The Drake is overplayed and ruins the experience of eve. The tank is seriously overpowered and way too many people hide behind it. There is a lot of other fascinating ships out there that players ignore because a drake feels like a safter option.


Why does this matter, even if true?

You don't like it, no-one's forcing you to fly it.

No-one's forcing you not to come up with ways to counter/beat it, either, of which there are many.

Sig-radius : tank : speed--know it, live it, love it, and use it to help you kill those Drakes you hate so much.



I think you should shoot more of your emotional pain into this thread.

Seriously.


I found the soundtrack for this thread.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#112 - 2012-01-25 00:23:05 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Jack Corigan wrote:
The Drake is overplayed and ruins the experience of eve. The tank is seriously overpowered and way too many people hide behind it. There is a lot of other fascinating ships out there that players ignore because a drake feels like a safter option.


Why does this matter, even if true?

You don't like it, no-one's forcing you to fly it.

No-one's forcing you not to come up with ways to counter/beat it, either, of which there are many.

Sig-radius : tank : speed--know it, live it, love it, and use it to help you kill those Drakes you hate so much.



I think you should shoot more of your emotional pain into this thread.

Seriously.


I found the soundtrack for this thread.


Thanks for the suggestion, mate, but I prefer things on the darker end of the spectrum, myself.

Fake-Edit: Activate bass-boost if tune-engine is so equipped, and play extremely loud!

Ni.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#113 - 2012-01-25 00:23:37 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Xolve wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Why does this matter, even if true?

You don't like it, no-one's forcing you to fly it.

No-one's forcing you not to come up with ways to counter/beat it, either, of which there are many.

Sig-radius : tank : speed--know it, live it, love it, and use it to help you kill those Drakes you hate so much.



I think you should shoot more of your emotional pain into this thread.

Seriously.


I found the soundtrack for this thread.
Lol

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Aldous Borrn
League of Gentleman Cartographers
#114 - 2012-01-25 00:24:36 UTC
I, for one, welcome our new Drake-free overlords.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-01-25 00:25:16 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion, mate, but I prefer things on the darker end of the spectrum, myself.

Fake-Edit: Activate bass-boost if tune-engine is so equipped, and play extremely loud!


I think you need to suppress your anti-social anger induced psychosis, not amplify it.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#116 - 2012-01-25 00:25:50 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Jack Corigan wrote:
The Drake is overplayed and ruins the experience of eve. The tank is seriously overpowered and way too many people hide behind it. There is a lot of other fascinating ships out there that players ignore because a drake feels like a safter option.


Why does this matter, even if true?

You don't like it, no-one's forcing you to fly it.

No-one's forcing you not to come up with ways to counter/beat it, either, of which there are many.

Sig-radius : tank : speed--know it, live it, love it, and use it to help you kill those Drakes you hate so much.



I think you should shoot more of your emotional pain into this thread.

Seriously.


One day, I hope to be as 1337 as you.

Mother of All Gods be praised, that day is not today.

Ni.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#117 - 2012-01-25 00:26:50 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion, mate, but I prefer things on the darker end of the spectrum, myself.

Fake-Edit: Activate bass-boost if tune-engine is so equipped, and play extremely loud!


I think you need to suppress your anti-social anger induced psychosis, not amplify it.
It's also lacking a fiddle.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#118 - 2012-01-25 00:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Petrus Blackshell
Lyrrashae wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, mate, but I prefer things on the darker end of the spectrum, myself.

Fake-Edit: Activate bass-boost if tune-engine is so equipped, and play extremely loud!

Nah, this seems more appropriate.

Real edit: Try to sing along to really feel it.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#119 - 2012-01-25 00:37:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Xolve
Lyrrashae wrote:
One day, I hope to be as 1337 as you.

Mother of All Gods be praised, that day is not today.


Oh so you've fallen victim to my riveting tales of exploits and battle prowess, and all the other reasons I'm better then you, huh? ShockedRoll Because you know- thats all that I do, stroll around the forums and profess my awesomeness and superiority to the pleeb like masses of high sec and the lowliest of carebears. Get a grip space friend.

Go back to spewing out diatribes about how amazing High Sec is, and how the Drake isn't imbalanced in comparison to other Battlecruisers; and while you're at it please make mention of why people should be permitted to farm high sec incursions for the maximum duration of their life because after all thats what the devs had envisioned all along; and finally please talk at length as to why lowsec isn't broken and is chock full of content.

I might be a whole list of things, but at least delusional isn't one of them.

Pubbie.
Alara IonStorm
#120 - 2012-01-25 00:39:23 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:

I found the soundtrack for this thread.

That was Beautiful.