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They won't stop at nerfing the Drake...
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Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
#21 - 2012-01-20 13:01:33 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
And why can I do Level IV's in a freaking cruiser (Strategic) for sakes????


Maybe because it is the most advanced ship currently in game, made from technology salvaged from ships packed with ai far more advanced than anything we currently have in game.

Just a thought.

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#22 - 2012-01-20 13:09:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lors Dornick
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
(Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them)


Are you aware of the concept known as an NDA?

A legally binding non-disclosure agreement?

Something that all members of all CSM's has signed.

Is it possible that such a fact might have something do with why CCP shares their ideas with the CSM before they release those (possibly modified) ideas to the general public?

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Raneru
Viper-Squad
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2012-01-20 13:44:21 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?


No, they are doing the Tengu next. Looks like its time for some people to diversify their ship collection Blink
Cyzlaki
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#24 - 2012-01-20 13:48:35 UTC
drake is getting buffed you idiot
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-01-20 13:52:07 UTC
LOL, you realise the 'cane already had it's nerf? It used to have 8 gun slots, thats when it was OP and actually on-par with the Drake (double the dps, half the tank)

Now its 1.5 times the dps, half the tank, even with this change you won't be seeing much change in the drake vs 'cane situation. 'Cane (if the pilot is good) will normally win 1v1 but Drake will be better for fleets because of the higher difficulty in alphaing it and the ease of logi support. If anything just changing the bonuses is not a nerf at all, simply a change when the drake does need a slight nerf it's long-range fleet capabilities such as a large speed reduction or a sensor range reduction.

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Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#26 - 2012-01-20 14:38:32 UTC
I'm bored sick of the Drake. TBH I'm not too bothered if they nerf it.

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Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-01-20 14:47:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Roosterton
Bad for PVE, good for PVP. I like.

After putting a bit more thought in, this is actually awesome for PVE, since you can deal full DPS to any rats regardless of damage type.
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#28 - 2012-01-20 15:36:20 UTC
Good to see things getting back to normal around here with all the "sky is falling" poasts about everyone's favorite FOTM(Y).

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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#29 - 2012-01-20 15:57:12 UTC
Drake tears, best tears.

Also, they better nerf the friggin Tengu, along with adding a bunch of mass to all battlecruisers. Down with FotM!

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J Kunjeh
#30 - 2012-01-20 16:02:49 UTC  |  Edited by: J Kunjeh
Posting in a "they nerfed my drake...whaaaaa!" thread. Oh, and posting in yet another Endeavour whine thread...don't you have Incursions to farm or something?

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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#31 - 2012-01-20 16:17:05 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Otherwise it will continue until it reaches your favorite craft to fly.


I am a bitter vet. I can fly it all. Something will be FOTM.

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Nyssa Litari
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-01-20 16:40:46 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

And why can I do Level IV's in a freaking cruiser (Strategic) for sakes????

Because it is a Tech 3 cruiser that uses reverse engineered Sleeper technology. A Jovian frigate could solo Level V missions. It may be the case that the training times are too low for Tech 3.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#33 - 2012-01-20 16:54:42 UTC
This is a buff, not a nerf. 25% resists (which has rediculously low effect when you have high resists) will not be the end of the world.

By my (and other's) estimates in EFT and from experience, you will still be able to tank any level 4. Just can't make a huge mistake and still be fine.
Endeavour Starfleet
#34 - 2012-01-20 21:52:27 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
(Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them)


Are you aware of the concept known as an NDA?

A legally binding non-disclosure agreement?

Something that all members of all CSM's has signed.

Is it possible that such a fact might have something do with why CCP shares their ideas with the CSM before they release those (possibly modified) ideas to the general public?


What does the NDA have to do with drake nerfs? This isn't a new graphical engine or new plans for team goals. There is no reason that should be an NDA topic.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#35 - 2012-01-20 21:55:24 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

What does the NDA have to do with drake nerfs? This isn't a new graphical engine or new plans for team goals. There is no reason that should be an NDA topic.

Usually NDAs cover any material "exclusively available to privileged eyes only" and you are only allowed to squawk about it if the subject is explicitly public/non-restricted. To prevent crazy market explosions, the final changes are probably going to be secret until they hit SiSi.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#36 - 2012-01-20 21:56:44 UTC
I look forward to the changes, CCP are going to make.

Also great thread, would read again.

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Spineker
#37 - 2012-01-20 22:00:07 UTC
Lazors and Autos are going to one shot it now because those two groups with there over powered ships whine like little girls.

Bunch pussies crying when they get wooped by a BC and can't one shot it. Now they can just whack it in a shot with their unbalanced ships and weapon systems. GOOD ******* JOB CCP
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#38 - 2012-01-20 22:02:51 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

What does the NDA have to do with drake nerfs? This isn't a new graphical engine or new plans for team goals. There is no reason that should be an NDA topic.

Usually NDAs cover any material "exclusively available to privileged eyes only" and you are only allowed to squawk about it if the subject is explicitly public/non-restricted. To prevent crazy market explosions, the final changes are probably going to be secret until they hit SiSi.


^^This is logical. You do realise that that sort of thing has no place in threads like this, right?

(And just so we're clear where I stand on this, see my sig., and my post in this thread-naught, post #345.)

Ni.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#39 - 2012-01-20 22:07:11 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:

What does the NDA have to do with drake nerfs? This isn't a new graphical engine or new plans for team goals. There is no reason that should be an NDA topic.

Usually NDAs cover any material "exclusively available to privileged eyes only" and you are only allowed to squawk about it if the subject is explicitly public/non-restricted. To prevent crazy market explosions, the final changes are probably going to be secret until they hit SiSi.


^^This is logical. You do realise that that sort of thing has no place in threads like this, right?



Oh ****, I forgot this is GD. *ahem*

LOL DReak noob tears cry more becasue your win butan ship was nerfd. NDA doesnt matter at all becos Mitani is in goons and he tells them everything so goonswarm can conquer all of eve and create A GIANT NULLSEC RMTING NAPFEST. WAKE UP SHEEPLE

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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#40 - 2012-01-20 22:08:17 UTC
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
For those that are cheering on CCPs nuking of the Drake from orbit (Under greenlight from the CSM instead of telling us about it before them) Do you seriously think that ships like the Tengu will be spared?

I do hope it will not Attention

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