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Irksome EVE Features or lack thereof.
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Khorkrak
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2012-01-17 22:42:27 UTC
Here's my latest series of rants that I'm sure you'll enjoy:

Why the hell isn't there a /roll command for the chat window? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to divide up the valuable loot from wrecks after vanquishing your foes by having the fleet members roll for it with the highest roll showing up for you? I don't mean anything like the rolling mechanics in WoW et al aside from just the simple ability to have a server based dice roll. I found a web site that enables this since it's not in game at least: rolz

Why isn't there a built-in killboard by EVE - something viewable in EVE Gate would be sensible. The lack of this is simply ludicrous. Instead we have to deal with the klunky and bloated battleclinic site or other alliance killboards nearly always written in that craptastic duo of PHP and MySQL. Can someone please write a killboard system using reasonable tools such as Python and PostgreSQL as opposed to that other garbage and do so in a clean object oriented manner? Reading through that code is nauseating.

Lastly, why can't I adjust my training queue from EVE gate. Instead, I have to log into the client and to do so. I hate that. Especially when you're away from a computer that can actually run the client. Seems drop dead simple to add to EVE Gate.


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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#2 - 2012-01-17 23:06:06 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Here's my latest series of rants that I'm sure you'll enjoy:

Why the hell isn't there a /roll command for the chat window? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to divide up the valuable loot from wrecks after vanquishing your foes by having the fleet members roll for it with the highest roll showing up for you? I don't mean anything like the rolling mechanics in WoW et al aside from just the simple ability to have a server based dice roll. I found a web site that enables this since it's not in game at least: rolz


Because Eve is a complicated enough clusterfuck of tangled code without adding extraneous features like that. Besides, this is why the Eve community is incredibly active in 3rd party development of various tools and other things.

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Why isn't there a built-in killboard by EVE - something viewable in EVE Gate would be sensible. The lack of this is simply ludicrous. Instead we have to deal with the klunky and bloated battleclinic site or other alliance killboards nearly always written in that craptastic duo of PHP and MySQL. Can someone please write a killboard system using reasonable tools such as Python and PostgreSQL as opposed to that other garbage and do so in a clean object oriented manner? Reading through that code is nauseating.


The metagame of faking killmails is valid. Dickish, but valid. If you don't like Battleclinic or EDK (which is actually one of the sleeker and more stable of PHP/MySQL apps I've seen), code up your own in whatever you wish. I believe Goonswarm uses a custom one (https://killboard.goonfleet.com/) and it looks nice, if you'd like inspiration.

And again, after seeing how much web development aptitude CCP have, do you really want them to code a killboard?

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Lastly, why can't I adjust my training queue from EVE gate. Instead, I have to log into the client and to do so. I hate that. Especially when you're away from a computer that can actually run the client. Seems drop dead simple to add to EVE Gate.


Heaven forbid you have to log in to a game to play it.

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Kha'Vorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-01-18 00:18:50 UTC
Khorkrak wrote:
Can someone please write a killboard system using reasonable tools such as Python and PostgreSQL as opposed to that other garbage and do so in a clean object oriented manner? Reading through that code is nauseating.


Go on then.
Cyzlaki
BRAWLS DEEP
HYPE-TRAIN
#4 - 2012-01-18 00:47:55 UTC
Great thread, I'll bookmark it and hope to see your new killboard Khorkak!