Player Features and Ideas Discussion

+1

Old idea that was not implemented, then forgotten. Ammo switching in general should provide more details about this stuff, which can be particularly useful when you are being tracking disrupted, for example.

Before flying every ship, seasoned PvPers take note of the optimal/falloff of each of their different ammos, and are able to call upon that information in a fight. Newbies are not, and bets are that most of them don't even know where to look up the optimal and falloff ranges in-game if you asked them, nor can they tell whether they're being tracking disrupted at all (the distinction between tracking and optimal range disruption is so far gone that it's not even worth asking).

That info should somehow be more readily available on the HUD. I'm not +1ing this because it would be particularly useful to me, but rather because teaching newbies why their Punisher needs to load Ultraviolet or Standard crystals to hit a far away target gets to be a bit of a headache without them having a proper UI to see what's going on.

Just the Minmatar ships? Noob.

they would if, and I know this is heresy, not read hybrid as blasters only. 1 weapons system rarely used, don't need to know its ranges. Leaves 1 weapons system with short, really short and anything more than 3 feet away is too long ranges to remember lol.

no.

you should know your ammo types. This is what makes this game what it is currently. Knowledge is power.

If you're talking about the "wavelength" of crystals or the mass of hybrid charge material, then yes, there is a way to comparatively know which one is longer range.

But just because Microwave is longer range than Ultraviolet doesn't tell me how far MW or UV can actually hit. I've never had to do this myself as I don't use beam lasers, but to optimize beam laser damage I was considering creating a table of my optimal ranges with different crystals and keeping it open on my second monitor. Wouldn't it be nicer to show in-game when switching ammo that UV is "42+5" range and MW is "70+7" range?

Essentially, "HTFU". I can live with that, but new players might not. That's the whole point of this idea.



I wish it were that simple. Sure, if you use autocannons like lasers and don't orbit, then the closer you are the more damage you will do, but the flimsiness and speed of Minmatar ships means you have to orbit and think about your tracking, too. Still, at least we usually don't muck around with a million different ammo types. Or at least, we muck around with them for damage types, and not for range.

Not sure how long you've played eve for but after a while u memorize what the range is on any crystal. Just takes time and the use of crystals other than Radio and Multifrequency (and their T2 equivalents).

I don't think this is needed unless its a quick feature to implement.

Maybe the answer is to search by module variables instead. So you pick one and it sorts it be damage, falloff, range etc.

They should change crystals into long, medium and short range variations and get rid of the rest, or alter them with different em/therm damage amounts. Most pilots only use multifreq for close range and scorch/aurora (or t1 equiv) for long, with the occasional standard crystal on hand for a medium distance. There's really little/no incentive to carry anything between these variations.

The point about tracking disruption is well taken. Tentative +1 from me.