Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A Plex is now part and owned by the Player run market. In your sence, its that button on the tab list saying market

It is affect by players and players alone. If you want the price lowered, then followe these steps:
Buy a HUGE amount and then re-sell all of it, in a long period at a very competitive price. in 6 months time, you will find the price with in that region you have sold in will drop




If your asking for CCP to tamper the plex to change market for your own personal gain then keep dreaming boy....



If you haven't figured out why the price has inflated, its because alot of major trading corps bought a tone of the plexs a good few months back and then bought all the market plex then resold them at a higher price. in short period it probably cost then A LOT to pull off but at a long term period, well you can guess they are now making a tone of isk thx to this text book marking trick.


in Short, the market is player run so STOP COMPLAINING




on another note, because of the rise in isk, it mean new player can get ALOT more isk now than they could back in the day which in term puts more money in ccp's pockets

Believe it or not, ccp is a business, they make a good portion of their income with plex, making plex attainable via in-game actions is completely stupid.

Without income, the game doesn't grow, without growth the game stagnates and dies.

So stop complaining and think of better things to post on FIDD section.

I was being bluntly honest because of in my opinion of course, the sheer stupidity of this idea.

But with PLEX its not just INGAME mechanics that affect the price, a PLEX can be bought with RL money, and then sold in game, bringing in inflation from outside the game (money).... So in short, markets are NOT completely player driven, CCP is pumping ISK to game from outside.




So, PLEX´s in fact create unequality between older players, and players that are younger, who dont have ISK to participate on stockpileing, even in small amounts, as older players control markets and price.




As I explained, many, or even most new/younger players (from few months to few years) aim at paying their game with PLEX eventually, and so if they see prices going up and up beyond their reach all the time, they might quite. For CCP I would see this as a golden opportunity keep them playing. On long run CCP gets more customers and money this way.

Only stupid people kill cows milking dollars for short profit, it also leads to not getting more cows.

On other (yours?) side of the fence, less players means less sold PLEX´s, and so less ISK according to demand and supply.





I have played almost 2,5 years and have not noticed rewards from missions and bounties from rats got higher in any way relative to price of plex has gone up....

And, muhadin (salaam[?]) and Petrus, sry but I skip ur comments pretty much, just because u did not really got into issue.

Even if I have not been born to play EVE, or am a noob in ur eyes (in game and/or forums), it does not make me a jackass...

Maybe you guys should leave calculation to CCP, how much they could offer ingame PLEX´s before they get bankcrupted???

Better question: how many hours would it be before any way to obtain PLEX ingame would suddenly be swarmed by every player everywhere?

Say 3000 players (1% of the population) get 3 PLEX each during the first week this is available -- a conservative estimate based on how much things like incursions are being abused for free ISK. That is $15 x 3000 x 3 = $135,000 in gametime that people are not paying for -- money that CCP is never going to see. That is $135k less revenue for the year: somewhat over the annual pay for a senior developer. PLEX prices crash as everyone can just get them for free now (congratulations), and CCP has to fire a developer. As time goes on, every week they have to fire another developer every week due to lack of funds to pay them. Eve and CCP are dead within a year.

Alternatively, the mission or whatever to earn the PLEX is too difficult, or you get PLEX too seldom, and nobody cares enough to do it. It fails to have an effect on the market, and becomes another diseased appendix of a "feature".

If CCP creates a PLEX-faucet in-game, it will end up one of those two ways. It is just too hard to find a middle ground.

Even if one is found, CCP would be giving up revenue from people buying PLEX to fund their ships. Why the hell would they do that? For every person who can pay for his in-game time without going to the market and buying a PLEX for ISK, that is $15 that CCP loses.

The increasing PLEX prices are because of the devaluing of ISK relative to it. It is far easier to make ISK now than it was a few years ago: wormholes, incursions, PI, agent quality removal, and other assorted goodies have made sure of that. As there is more ISK to be spent, that allows the prices of PLEX (and everything else) to go up. It's not CCP's fault that you have not adapted and have continued grinding the same lv4 missions.

To solve PLEX prices the right way (without causing egregious financial damage to CCP), Eve needs to either have more isk sinks, or to curb the isk faucets, or both.

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Did I go into the issue enough for you? Or am I too bad at simple math and business sense?

Your noobiness or bad spelling doesn't offend me or make you a jackass, Amarr Maniac; your arrogance and dismissiveness of the math behind this does. Stop badposting.

Ok, u prob are right, and CCP needs money too, more and more...

But what i suggested really was that CCP would CALCULATE (monthly/weekly?) how much they could put free PLEXE´s ingame, withouth giving out too much, still balancing markets.

I cant imagine anyone would leave a PLEX on a wreck, and not sell or use it, such as all Shansha modules get to contracts or markets f.ex,


I dont see how any "free" PLEX would just disappearr from economics of game, except like faction modules in blown BS.

Good Lord, how can so many people be this dense that so many people seem to think this. PLEX does not in any way, shape, or form create ISK on the market. PLEX is a way of spending $ and turning it into days of game play time. If you went over to your friend and said "I'll give you 400M ISK in Eve if you give me $15 to pay for a month of game time", that wouldn't be generating ISK on the market, it's just moving it from one person to another.

PLEX does NOT create ISK, it just moves ISK from people with a lot of ISK to people with a lot of cash. End of story. It doesn't cause inflation or deflation, it just moves ISK around from one player to another.

Lol this is starting to sound like repubican debate (and I am a Finn), if cutting taxes (price we pay to CCP) increases jobs (amount of players) or not, and yeah, forgot those cuttings... I guess CCP needs ISKL(oan)

Shouldnt extreme-capitalistic Caldari at least survive? :)

Well in this case we talk about system that needs less interventionism and/ or socialism :

But still no need to talk about 0% tax, would bet CCP (gov) in this case would do well with 10% tax, no army needed (programmers have healthcare and education free)