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Smabs
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-01-24 08:12:26 UTC
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I assure you, none of the people raging over this would ever have voted for Darius. It's stunts like this that got him votes in the first place. Also, he has a sexy voice.


I also don't know where goons figure into this.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-01-24 12:53:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
according to Dr. E / CCP


the same guys who were ~shocked~ when realizing that making one moon mineral the bottleneck for the majority of T2 production in the game is not the best idea and that cost does not ensure rarity

good point

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Olivia Hume
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-01-24 13:41:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Olivia Hume
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Andski wrote:
there's absolutely nothing wrong with massive ISK printing with concord protection, nope not at all

Apparently not, it's not harming the economy (according to Dr. E / CCP - and the CSM didn't raise any red flags) - so apparently it's not harming anything at all.



That meeting is 2 month old, not everybody knew at that time how much money you could make running incursion. At that time, people didn't know or believe one could make 100mil isk/h in incursion.
Tagera
Dog Nation
#44 - 2012-01-24 14:15:45 UTC
Depending on competition I'd say more then 100mil per hour. Some of those fleets are pulling roughly a billion per person a day. And since they're farming them, that's several days.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#45 - 2012-01-24 14:59:18 UTC
Umega wrote:
It is just a Game. A sandbox game with its foundation in pvp. Put up a chain-link fence around your sand castle, but don't be surprised when someone still manages to scale it and starts humping.



what I thought I read.
Endeavour Starfleet
#46 - 2012-01-24 15:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Endeavour Starfleet
Olivia Hume wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Andski wrote:
there's absolutely nothing wrong with massive ISK printing with concord protection, nope not at all

Apparently not, it's not harming the economy (according to Dr. E / CCP - and the CSM didn't raise any red flags) - so apparently it's not harming anything at all.



That meeting is 2 month old, not everybody knew at that time how much money you could make running incursion. At that time, people didn't know or believe one could make 100mil isk/h in incursion.


Um what? CCP own data not enough fer ya? CSM looking at said data aint enough for ya? Nope instead everyone that hates incursion runners needs to generalize and pull numbers from their rear end.

Incursion income is fine. It is the advantage of blitzing vanguards that needs to be fixed to help nonshiny fleets.
Olivia Hume
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2012-01-24 16:27:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Olivia Hume
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:
Olivia Hume wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Andski wrote:
there's absolutely nothing wrong with massive ISK printing with concord protection, nope not at all

Apparently not, it's not harming the economy (according to Dr. E / CCP - and the CSM didn't raise any red flags) - so apparently it's not harming anything at all.



That meeting is 2 month old, not everybody knew at that time how much money you could make running incursion. At that time, people didn't know or believe one could make 100mil isk/h in incursion.


Um what? CCP own data not enough fer ya? CSM looking at said data aint enough for ya? Nope instead everyone that hates incursion runners needs to generalize and pull numbers from their rear end.

Incursion income is fine. It is the advantage of blitzing vanguards that needs to be fixed to help nonshiny fleets.



I didn't say anything about the data themselves except that the meeting and data are 2 months old. The data might even be older. Since then more people might have learn about the income they generate and more might have moved their PvE activities to HS.

Also, what it won't show is that most new players trained up to run incursion instead of moving to NS or w-space.

Sooner or later, ADHC will notice a drop of activities in wspace if nothing is done.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-01-24 22:56:26 UTC
Andski wrote:
the same guys who were ~shocked~ when realizing that making one moon mineral the bottleneck for the majority of T2 production in the game is not the best idea and that cost does not ensure rarity

good point

Yeah, CCP can make a phuu-qup, so what?

One mistake does not invalidate every other activity... Nobody is perfect, and no-one (that I know of) makes 100% mistakes... So I'm betting CCP is hitting somewhere in the middle (or above). Yeah, CCP makes mistakes - they also get things right.
Olivia Hume wrote:
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
Andski wrote:
there's absolutely nothing wrong with massive ISK printing with concord protection, nope not at all

Apparently not, it's not harming the economy (according to Dr. E / CCP - and the CSM didn't raise any red flags) - so apparently it's not harming anything at all.

That meeting is 2 month old, not everybody knew at that time how much money you could make running incursion. At that time, people didn't know or believe one could make 100mil isk/h in incursion.

/me looks at calendar...
/me looks at above post...

CSM meeting was Dec 9-13. So that means the data is no newer than Dec 9. Probably Nov 30th... So December has 30 days... It's now January 24th.... So not quite 60 days m8! Big smile

HOWEVER, if you read down (1 paragraph further?) - CCP is pulling economic metrics *monthly* - So I bet they have *even newer* numbers...

Also - those "two month old numbers" don't take into account (or reflect) the current level of Hi-Sec interdictions...

Olivia Hume wrote:
Also, what it won't show is that most new players trained up to run incursion instead of moving to NS or w-space.

Sooner or later, ADHC will notice a drop of activities in wspace if nothing is done.

*Most new players"? Please, share with us your data, as I'm sure we'd all love to see it! Besides, I'm pretty sure armor/shield skills trained up for incursions translate across to PvP pretty easily... We don't know where those new players will settle, but I'll bet WH's pull their fair share. The very nature of WH space means there will be times when activity is down - just because you can't be sure where your connection is going to be. It also means that there will be *extremely busy* times...

But *I'm* betting that WH's continue to increase in popularity - because of their unclaimed nature and specific mechanics.


Besides, we have good scouts... Lol


They've been known to create their own activity...Pirate

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
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