Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Here are some ideas sorry for repeats.

Tier 2 Capital Weapons:
Most of the capital weapons on the market are good for both capital fights and engaging sub capitals. The next tier of guns should really be for capital fights only. Heavy guns that have such poor tracking and massive signature resolution that they can only hit the largest and slowest targets but whose alpha is such that they are key for that role. These guns are hard to put on any ship. They should be so fitting intensive that Titans have to sacrifice their tank or go under gunned to use them. These guns are for cap on cap fights and hard target bashing.
Suggested names:
Mega Tachyon Beam Laser
Mega Tachyon Pulse Laser
Heavy Citadel Torpedo Launcher
Heavy Citadel Cruise Missile Launcher
Neutron Siege Blaster
1500mm Rail Gun
Triple 4250mm Siege Artillery
Quad 3000mm Repeating Artillery

Named Capital Weapons:
The capital guns need to be flushed out as far as named guns are concerned. The bonuses for using bigger guns can be having a good bonus in only one area and sacrificing another area stat wise. For example having a good range but having bad tracking. This gives the pilot a really good chance at optimizing the ship for a specific style of combat.

Jump Drive Controller/Jump Drive Fuel Manager/Jump Drive Capacitor Controller
Navigation rigs that increase a capital ships range, reduce fuel cost, and reduce minimum capacitor need of the jump drive respectively. Each rig adds its benifit at the cost of hull hp.

AMS systems:
Anti Missile Systems can come in 3 forms; laser, blaster, autocannon. they act like defender missiles but are unique modules. Laser AMS uses cap and needs no ammo and has the best range, but it has the lowest damage. Blaster MAS have the best damage, able to wipe out whole stacks of missiles. But it is very very short ranged. AC-AMS has average range and a great rate of fire, but burns through its ammo very fast.

More ideas to come I'm sure

"Over-boost Defense Module" or "Emergency Defense Module"
Boosts shield resistance to 99,9% for 20 secs while overheating itself.
After usage its destroyed by overheating.

Fits in mid slot.

Hello Everyone I have a stupid idea.

My idea is this: Chase drones/probes.

So you are sitting on a gate/station/star whatever and the red flashy guy turns up, he's too fast for you and your interceptors just miss him. He's gone! Except your chase drone damn near insta-locked him and is on his tail. Now it's following him, in warp, like a big space chasy thing. It's reporting back it's position on directional and on the system and star maps.

Target jumped out of system? chase drone follows him through the gate. It's only got a certain amount of cap though and a couple of warps across Oipo will drain it completely.

Details of stupid idea:

-single use utility high slot drone(converted probe launcher) or 25m3 drone. Launched during gate camp orbiting your ship.
-limited cap, modified by yet another drone skill or an underused profession skill like hacking or something.
-model is a drone orbiting the target ship.
- targets anything red and flashy(can set targetting behavior in drone control window) on the overview and goes after the first one that warps away (up to max targets locked)
-does no damage, just reports back to the user until it dies
- can be warped to by the player controlling it so the chased player has to keep moving.

Countermeasures:
-out run it, it can be out run by the fastest warping ships if a ship is off grid to the chase probe then it loses the target and shuts down.
-send in a decoy guy you don't care about in a shuttle
-shoot it, agression mechanics apply.
-FLY THROUGH THE SUN! (I really want the sun to actually do something in this game, it's a million mile wide ball of fire for gods sake.)

I always think that one of the most awesome parts of the game is when you are in warp with someone else imagine getting through a gatecamp and realising that you are being CHASED BY A DRONE!

OK you are all now free to question my sexuality and punch me in the virtual face for being a moron.

Another absolutely horrible idea…

You have a set of scripts running on your ship, accessed through the fitting window. Your offensive modules have a script with a version number or age attached to them. You have to update your scripts on your ship or you will fall behind, just as you have to update your antivirus on your PC now you have to update your anti ECM scripts.

I know that you LOVE updating your antivirus.

Script updates would be manufactured from hacking sites, algorithms could be bolted together from snippets of adaptive code found using hacking.

An AI with an up to date script would be less affected by hostile ECM and targeted modules. Hacking corps could snip algorithms from sleeper/Jove sites or run long invention jobs on existing scripts in order to improve their AI over and above the enemy’s.

The hacking profession would be a bit more fun as there would be a constant dribble of improvement if you are actively involved in it. You could strike the next major breakthrough and get a script drop six months in advance of what’s out there now. Corp theft, spying and the odd ganked hauler would ensure that a script doesn’t stay private for long.

You would never quite know what you were facing...

A lagging version of the AI would be seeded to stations as the standard version, no cost to the average player. This “continuously improved” version would represent that empire’s baseline research, some months the Amarr would be ahead in some aspect, some months the Caldari but never by much. With a little effort the average pod pilot would be able to pull ahead of the curve.

Corps/alliances with the most advanced scripts would have an advantage over others but they would need to distribute the scripts to others and those scripts could be intercepted in transit.

Undocking with a two year old AI script would be basically the same as undocking with your pants around your ankles.
Basically, if you don’t adapt, you die.

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but trawling through 36+ pages is not my idea of fun.

Module: Implant Extractor / Implant Extractor Tech2 / Faction versions

Basically it means you can loot a corpse of potential implants. You will need to have either the salvaging skill or a new Implant Extractor skill to allow for a better chance of implant extraction.

The more advanced the implant, the harder it is to extract it, with more chances of failure if your skills are too low. So someone with base skills trying to extract a Crystal implant would fail and destroy the implant.

This could be fitted to a high slot, or to a medium to make it more difficult for broad usage.

The Tech2 version would obviously add bonuses to the chance of implant retrieval and if faction versions were created then they would have some other effects or bonuses.

I would suggest that ships such as the Noctis would provide a bonus as with their salvaging bonus.


Alternatively, we could have the ability to attempt to remove implants from corpses at the Medical Facilities. The same skills-based bonus/penalties would apply - if you don't have the skills, you'll probably break them.


Perhaps even creating some temporary implants from the extraction if someone has extracted it, but not done a good job of it. This might impair the implants performance or give it a limited lifespan.

"Unstable Cybernetic Subprocessor - Improved". This processor's performance has been drastically reduced because of the extraction process. It is not advisable to install it as it may have a limited effect or cause neural damage.

Another thing I'd love to see is faction armor plates giving a racial resist bonus (not much, perhaps 10% to whatever resist they tend to be best tanked against).

Dry-Dock Freight Container:

Applying some of the rules from station containers to shipping containers – Station containers can hold assembled ships (but are obviously too large to be shipped from place to place). A shipping container large enough to limit its use to freighters (and therefore prevent deployment in belts as a mining container for example) and with rules and capacity to contain an assembled Battleship allows the movement of (particularly) rigged ships which will not fit inside an Orca more efficiently than flying it, shuttling back…etc.

External Size: 450,000m3 (Allowing two to be carried in any max skilled freighter, although in the case of the Fenrir, only just).
Internal Size: 500,000m3 (A minimal level of expansion, suitable for almost all BS (see below)).

My current thinking is to keep the packaged size small, perhaps ten or twenty thousand cubic meters, partially to allow the containers to be moved by standard haulers and also allowing a freighter to carry packaged containers without significantly impairing its normal operation.

A note on container capacity:
The size chosen creates slightly more than a 10% expansion which shouldn’t ruffle too many feathers.
There is an issue however... The Machariel is about 20% larger than the “average” battleship and will not fit within this type of container. While GSCs allow a 30% expansion they cannot be used in freighters. While there is no danger of allowing packaged capitals into Empire using this method there is still a certain reluctance to increase Freighter cargo capacity more than is absolutely necessary.

Finally, the rules for these containers would have to be considered quite carefully to prevent freighters loading up on fully expanded haulers full of containers (further increasing their expansion). The right choices of ships could, after all, significantly increase the capacity of the freighter if used in this manner - easiest would be to apply the rules for Ship Maint Arrays, meaning that only ammunition could be carried in the holds of ships inside the containers (though that's a large amount of ammunition none the less) but I wouldn't want to prevent a Fenrir from moving two battleships at once simply because they each have a can of cap boosters in the hold so the container rules would have to be carefully considered.

I like this idea it would help with station games also aggression count down on gates pull them away..

Scripts doesn't sound like a Terrible Idea. I read about 1/3 or maybe 1/2 of your post, and even then I already validated the idea as not being terrible. Don't be so hard on yourself, man! I admit, it would still have to go through CCP, and they would still have to make some changes, but maybe Newer Scripts and Older Scripts could have advantages and disadvantages over eachother and could be updated and exchanged whenever, and there could also be Third Party scripts that you could put in your modules.