Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No idea if I posted in this thread or another but Sig Radius reduction rigs.

Now that I think of it, you can ECCM ECM*, Sensor Boost against damps, TC/TL against TDs ... but do nothing to improve your sig in the case of TPs except X-Instinct booster.

If not a rig, then a module.

* Oh, actually maybe you could implement a 250km AoE module that biomasses all Falcon pilots on grid? Also, a colossal electrostatic charge that leads back to any ship controlling EC- drones and knocks all their ******* mods offline. Hit me up for collaboration, we can make this happen.

Halo implants already do this.

Of course!

What about a "Smart Bomb" module that instead of doing a 360 AoE, would do a 60-120 degree but at a longer range in the direction your ship is pointing, or with script behind the ship, hitting stuff chasing you

I am thinking damage could be the same, or slightly higher, cap usage the same or slightly larger? but range would be between 25-50% more? :)

its sort of like a wide beam laser pulse, and should proberly have such an effect...

I support hull repair drones, mining rigs, anti-heat remote logistics, small and medium stasis webifier drones, cloaked-ship-hunting, and an idea I heard for a consumable tanking module. I also believe tech II rig components need to be more available.

I am possibly in support of a salvage drone, but only if it is large size and very slow. A missioner might deploy it to get a valuable wreck in the distance while he slowboats his battleship in a different direction.

Consumable Tank Module
I think the consumable tank module could be an option for a battleship to put in a high slot (leaves their normal tank modules unaffected), and would cost some 50-100 million isk worth of minerals to produce. When activated, it would provide perhaps 5 or 10 minutes of dramatically enhanced armor repair and shield boosting and those repair module activation costs would be decreased. Plus, it would provide a small capacitor injection every few seconds to add resistance to neuting. But while this module is active, the ship becomes immobile and cannot warp.

There could also be a similar module that dramatically boosts shield and armor resistances for the duration instead of boosting repair, in case a pilot expects to encounter such heavy neuting as to render the other module useless. This alternate module would also decrease shield regeneration dramatically, or maybe entirely. It could also be used in conjunction with remote repair.

It would be useful in situations where you know you might suddenly start getting hit very hard, so you can survive for a while. But you had better get some friends to bail you out. In nullsec, a gang attacking someone who activates this module can record the time it was activated, warp out and await the timer. Then they can warp back to the pilot right before it finishes and kill him...unless his friends arrived.

Warp Reinforcement Module
This would be a lowslot module similar to a warp core stabilizer, but different. This module would not infer a bonus until onlined. There would be no targeting range and scan resolution penalties for equipping it or activating it. It would have perhaps a 20 second activation time, at the end of which it goes online and provides 1 unit of warp strength. It would also have a lower CPU cost than the warp core stabilizer.

Industrial ships should get 2 warp strength from the module when it goes online, because otherwise they won't use it since they don't mind the penalties from the warp core stabilizer. Also, this would give industrials the option to fit more tank instead of just lots of warp core stabilizers if they want to go into lowsec or something.

no penalty for equipping, thus making it more accessible to, say, solo pilots in lowsec

takes time to activate, so you have to be prepared to defend yourself for a short time

industrial ships would get 2 warp strength out of it since they don't mind the warp core stabilizer penalties

deep space transports might find this to be a very attractive fitting option

Strategic Frigate
Cause why not? It would be extremely effective in many warfare situations and also would be extremely expensive for a frigate. And since it's a frigate, it's prone to random accidental popping. Good isk sink for the richer players I think. Would also make level 1, 2, and 3 mission running grinding easier for the veteran player.

Battleship Shield Extenders and Armor Plates
I want to be explicitly clear that I am in favor of nerfing tank and making more glass cannons, only because the current EVE favors tank and I prefer a good balance. I submit these because battlecruiser effective hit points aren't that much lower than battleship effective hit points. Shield regeneration setups are not viable on battleships and the rigs that boost hit points by a percentage give around the same bonus as the flat bonus modules that cost a chunk of powergrid. It seems unbalanced in favor of battlecruisers.

X-Large Shield Extender I

+3750 shield HP

50 tf CPU

750 MW powergrid

AND

2800mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

+5250 armor HP

34 tf CPU

1000 MW powergrid

OR
3200mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

+6000 armor HP

35 tf CPU

1250 MW powergrid

(I wasn't sure if the full 3200mm was too much or not)

Capital Ship Rigs
For too long, capital ships have been paying far too little to be rigged up to the max. It's time they start paying their dues. Perhaps there could be a variety of rare nullsec capital ship rats that could be salvaged for the rig components. Also salvaging any player capital ship would produce these, and even orca and freighter wrecks would have a chance of producing these components. Also, maybe level 5 missions, 9/10 and 10/10 complexes, and certain parts of incursions should spawn capital ship rats. Finally, class 6 and maybe sometimes class 5 wormhole system anomalies might have capital-size sleeper rats added to them.

In order to allow capital ship owners to preserve the value of the rigs they already have installed, the old rigs could become a special item that can be removed from the slot and reprocessed for a percentage yield of the components that go into the production of the capital-size rig. And for a certain period of time, the old rigs could be kept in for the full effect they normally lend, to give people a chance to get the switch-over done. And yes, jump freighter wrecks salvage for tech II capital rig components. Oh, the horror!

Hull nosferatu.
For real men.

Faction and deadspace damage controls. Not original, I know, but they would be nice to have. 70-75% hull resists for a stealth Gallente buff.

Wouldn't it be interesting if a special probe could be launched to provide an additional sensor to the owned ship? Dropping one of these could prohibit one jammer from affecting the ship; drop two, and two jammers won't affect the ship, etc. Similar to how warp strength works; you need N+1 points to hold a ship down.

These wouldn't affect the sensor strength of the ship, and the charge should probably take up the entire probe launcher's space. Lifetime should be relatively short (minutes). The charge could also be destroyed.

This would be a HUGE win for solo / small gang PvP types who have little chance to fight back with ECM on the field, and it would give pilots an option of giving up a gun/missile/utility slot instead of a mid or low slot, while nerf ECM ships without actually touching them.

I'm not sure how expensive spherical calculations are, but perhaps the probe would, instead of preventing jamming, allow the ship to target anyone within a certain radius.

The cool thing is that, should this charge fit into a standard probe launcher, then even many frigates can afford to fit one.

EWAR mods need to be iterated upon to add more options to the current battlefield. like how rigs were changed from 1 size to 3 differing sizes, ewar mods need to be expanded upon to make more sense and to scale properly for the ships theyre used on.

so all EWAR mods would be broken into 4 sizes:

• Small
• Medium
• Large
• Capital

Then take those modules and change their %age attributes to be discrete values balanced to their sizes. specialised t2 ships with bonuses to those modules get an attribute modifier on those modules.
Add a few lines of code to make sure multiples of these modules applied to a target still submit to stacking penalties.

Basically to fix the ridiculous scenario that the same module used by a frigate has the same effect on target as the same one used by a capital.
This would open up many more options for fleets gangs and squads to utilise larger ships for better results using EWAR modules. adding to the risk reward mechanic of Eve.

It would also pave the way for:

• Supercaps having their EWAR immunity removed
• Allows capitals like carriers many more roles and possibilities in Cap fleets.
• Allows more natural sandbox counters to Supercap blobs using EWAR that arent the rediculous 1000 rifters with sensor dampeners idea.
• Adds to the Sandbox nature of Eve Online instead of forcing the more 'endgame' elements of it into a pre-defined 'mould'.

I've noticed this is a growing trend as well. There are several modules I will not consider when trying to fit out a new ship because the cost/benefit just is not there. I am in no way a veteran when it comes to fitting, but it just doesn't make sense to fit 200mm plate when a larger one will do better for a little switching around of modules.

These modules also seem only useless because of the experience of the player base. Experienced players offer ideas to some of the best fittings, so sites like Battleclinic thrive. This is a good thing. Newer players begin to understand the complexity of fits and how the slots can interact to form one unit. This is also a good thing, but in some ways it is stagnating. I imagine this is why there is a push for new modules.

So what to do about the leftover modules? There are a slew of science, mechanic, and industry skills that are very tightly focused. Is it possible you could expand the concept of invention through a sort of technological "alchemy"? Create new modules by throwing together certain components with chance based modifiers, like the current invention, to create something new? Not precisely greatly enhanced, but just better or even different.

I believe this is similar to the idea that the players could eventually design technologies and submit them for the developers to add to the game, but that obviously would get out of hand. This system is constrained by the attributes already present on existing "useless" modules and could be relatively automatic. Relative being highly relative; designing the algorithm to take attributes and skills into account sounds like a nightmare, but I digress.

An example? Combine an armor plate with a projectile cannon to create a "reinforced barrel" which could either lead to greater ranges for the same damage or the increased damage for a more unpredictable range. Based on the mass of the plate or type of plate would determine the characteristics of the reinforcement.

What if you combined a rig with a module of a relative type to increase the modules capabilities? A propulsion rig on a propulsion module to give it different characteristics. Decreased sig radius penalties on MWD, maybe enhanced agility. Granted, the purpose of rigs is to enhance the performance of the ship in question, so this would seem like a form of "double" stack. There are numerous drawbacks that can be taken into account. You could argue that the enhanced thrust requires lighter shielding for radiating excess heat out into space, therefore the new and improved propulsion module takes away armor points much like the Dynamic Fuel Valve rig does.

Ultimately, this would lead to a more unpredictable sandbox environment. It may also result in a very disrupted market once modules like this could be sold. Just my two cents.

I would also like to say that I apologize if I am stating something that has already been said. It was a quick idea and I did not feel like researching the forums extensively to guarantee a "unique" post.

Quade

i would include tackle mods in that, although most tackle mods are already a discrete value... their granularity i think needs to be increased.
you will still be able to have specialised ships that can tackle larger class ships by having inherent attribute modifiers assigned.
Plus the people who think changing EWAR attribute from %ages to discrete values will remove stacking penalties on a target, thats seriously such an easy thing to code against.