Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What if both sides are target painting each other? It would make them useless and nobody would risk using them. Therefore, why even implement them?



Suicide gankers only need one shot though. Imagine having a Tornado with that thing equipped. Any subcap undocking from Jita would be able to get blown up with even a couple of those.



So essentially, a terrible ECM burst? Why even implement it then?



I'm thinking more in fleet engagements than a lowsec bait ship. Bring a Scorpion with a bunch of shield mods plus those, and it'll absorb a ton of damage until the fleet switches targets.



I fly CovOp and Force Recon ships all the time, so I know what i'm talking about. However, I'm not talking about cloaking mods when I refer to gate camps. When you jump through a gate, it flashes on both ends, and once you land you get 30 seconds of cloak. With your new little feature though, a seconds after a camped gate flashes in low or null, someone will launch one of your probes to uncloak the ship and then proceed to do their thing.

I understand what you mean by self destructing. However, remember that the first few minutes are the most critical in any battle. by using these self destructing mods in the first minute or two, both sides will just be at a stalemate until the mods get self destructed. Then, it'll just be like any other fleet battle.

I like this one

That could be Extreamly Useful.. Though They would have to make the Probe target-able so the people gate camping can blow it up, if they so choose too.

Being able to blow them up comes as a double edge sword.

The person that launched it, won't know WHATs over there. Just that there is Something/Someone over there.

Could make for some very interesting game play on gate camps that way.

iFoFs are not for fleet war thats for darn sure. Either way the iFoFs are much more reliable than regular fofs at least you have an idea who the missile will be hitting and if you stay out of thier painters optimal thier missiles reverte back to standard FoF behavior anyways so if the fleets start mixing it up point blank its going to be choatic regardless and in skirmish warfare not everyone fits to counter EVERYTHING.

Suicide Gankers already can kill thier targets regardless of what thier targets do, Why not make it arbitarly a bit more expensive skill point and material wise at least?

Becuase its a one shot chance risk of either losing ship or escape. ECM burst is less likely to save one's rear hide as this thing.

Well we can prevent it from activating on grid with any massive object in it. such as accel gates, planets, moons, stations, star gates that restriction is possible.

nothing against ya nova but really cant you slow it down a bit ffs i mean really we dont need 30 pages of your run-away ideas mate.

just go to bed or something jeez let ppl read it with it never ending. and some of your ideas are stupidly op.

So that'd be like a deployable version of my earlier suggestion:


Also similar to what Nova called a "Defense Grid." The trapping feature would imply that you could not fire out of the shield bubble, effectively creating a temporary private battlefield. No RR unless it's in there with you... etc. Interesting.

I think I am crapping my pants. Not only is a Dev posting in the F&I section, but this awesome Dev actually started a thread asking for features and ideas from the players? Holy shat...I think I DID shat myself.

Transport Scan Inhibitor I

A backup system which operates in conjunction with the main array. Reduces the ship's vulnerability to cargo hold scanners.

Penalty: Using more than one type of this module or similar modules that affect the same attribute on the ship will be penalized.

Bonus: 10% Chance to block cargo hold scanner attempt per level of Electronic Warfare Skill


Combat Scan Inhibitor I

A backup system which operates in conjunction with the main array. Reduces the ship's vulnerability to ship scanners.

Penalty: Using more than one type of this module or similar modules that affect the same attribute on the ship will be penalized.

Bonus: 10% Chance to block ship scanner attempt per level of Electronic Warfare Skill


Scan Deflection Circuit I

This ship modification is designed to increase a ship's chance of defeating scan attempts by ship and cargo scanners at the expense of CPU/Power Grid usage of weapons systems.

Bonus: 15% chance to block scan attempts by cargo and ship scanners. +10% CPU and Power Grid needed for combat weapons of all types, -1% penalty to CPU and Power Grid needed for combat weapons of all types per level of Electronic Superiority Rigging.

Penalty: Using more than one type of this module or similar modules that affect the same attribute on the ship will be penalized.


Scan Masking Circuit I

This ship modification is designed to increase a ship's chance of defeating scan attempts by NPC customs ships at the expense of CPU/Power Grid usage of weapons systems.

Bonus: 15% chance to block scan attempts by NPC customs ships. +10% CPU and Power Grid needed for combat weapons of all types, -1% penalty to CPU and Power Grid needed for combat weapons of all types per level of Electronic Superiority Rigging.

Penalty: Using more than one type of this module or similar modules that affect the same attribute on the ship will be penalized.


Note: these are just suggested draft bonuses – obviously some additional bonuses would be applied to specialized ship types (maybe even new ships)


I wanted to avoid having to add new skills into the game, but am open to suggestions that would make this proposal better. In particular I need help determining what CPU/Grid/Capacitor requirements would be best for the 2 modules and what slots they would best be placed in, e.g. high/medium/low. Thanks!

If this is not an original idea (as I am sure its probably not) I apologize to the original poster whom suggested this..but I felt strongly enough about it to suggest it once more.

I would agree with other posters that the most prudent course of action is to iterate on existing items first, then deal with new stuff. There are plenty of items that just plain suck, that are missing faction variants, t2 variants, or just don't exist at all (many types of capital sized mods, for example).

There are some potential opportunities for 'new' stuff to be included with that; eg, you could have a t2 interdiction launcher that fires a cynosural-jamming warp probe - but starting with the basics seems like the more prudent course.