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How do you decide if you want to be a CSM?

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Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#21 - 2012-01-16 09:11:36 UTC
I wonder will CCP make those changes about CSM they talked about.


I won't vote for any goon or there pet.

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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-01-16 09:58:23 UTC
The CSM is another meta gaming tool. And as usual CCP allows these tools to work their little magic until it get exploited a bit too much. CSM 6 managed to pass that point by far.

And yes, I credit none of the change of direction for CCP to the CSM. On the contrary, it just highlighted how little value the CSM have for the wider player community and I hope to see this institution shut down or radically changed in the near future.

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Signal11th
#23 - 2012-01-16 11:30:22 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
It takes a great deal of responsibility I imagine, traveling to Iceland and all of that. But I suspect the preparation in game must be far more difficult then simply scoring a ticket and getting on a airplane. Think about all of the extra accounts that you have to make to exploit the vote? There is also that buddy program thing... and not to mention kestrels filled with dozens of plexes.



I am sitting on a massive wad of ISK in my corporation. I acquired this ISK from alliance wide taxes and mining moongoo in nullsec for a couple of years. I am planning on liquidating my isk and buying cosmic buttloads of plexes to activate a veritable army of accounts with my wealth and open access to alliance resources.



But... I am still not sure if I actually want to be a CSM. Ugh
Can I get some guidance from anyone?





I admit that there is a certain appeal in standing on the shoulders of the player base and taking credit for everything people worked towards collectively. "Eternum the champion of CCP" has a nice ring to it. But I just don't know if I want to dedicate THAT much of my life to a freakin video game, ya know? I figured that I would get some feedback from the rest of the community. Any input that you may have would be appreciated. Thx!



You don't become a CSM because you think you have nothing left to do in EVE so being a CSM strokes your E-peen, you become a CSM because like real life politics want to make a change or to improve/worsen certain aspects.

You need to have a platform, something that you yoursefl find needs a change and that has to be a popular vote that gets you on.

On the other hand you could just want a trip to Iceland or get your cronies to vote for you to facilitate tthe before mentioned trip to Iceland.

Basically if you have to ask then you're not suited for it.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-01-16 12:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hello, Eternum Praetorian. Did you know that I will be running for CSM this cycle? I came to that decision when I realized that there are quite a lot of people, within and without my coalition, who like me; so, I figured a great thing to do for them in return for all of their likes here on the forums would be for me to go to Iceland and represent them.




Well then Lyris, I guess we will see if your army of alt accounts and Alt liking accounts can defeat mine. May the greater exploitative legion emerge as the victor! Of course you have risen by a factor of 44 likes in roughly 8 hours, even though you have posted far less times then that....



I guess things for my alt legions are not looking so good atm, when compared to yours SadSadSad

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Dane El
Negative Density
#25 - 2012-01-16 12:15:22 UTC
I ask my self "Am I serious enough about internet spaceships to travel to Iceland?" No.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-01-16 12:20:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Dane El wrote:
I ask my self "Am I serious enough about internet spaceships to travel to Iceland?" No.




But just think about how important you can feel? You may have failed in numerous ways in your real life, and you may be too obnoxious, ugly and criminal to succeed in real world politics. But here... HERE... you can exploit a system to a sure win regardless of your most grotesque and crapulent attributes.


It may be only a game, but how many chances like this does a guy get? Once seated on the CSM you can take credit for all of the tireless work done by others. It is the closest thing to being a Pharaoh since Ramses II snorted his last line off of a limestone pillar in Egypt. CSM 6 is proof of how awesome getting drunk in Ice land can be... and frankly I think I want in. I want to puke on a glacier and think of myself as god-like and golden ray of sunshine in digital domain.



All that stands between me and the CSM are large quantities of plexes and Lyris's army of alt liking accounts!

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Ayuren Aakiwa
Intangible.
#27 - 2012-01-16 12:26:11 UTC
ITT: OP spends all his money on plex, doesn't get into csm.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-01-16 12:27:49 UTC
Ayuren Aakiwa wrote:
ITT: OP spends all his money on plex, doesn't get into csm.



Moongoo and alliance embezzlement... Jeeze what a lack of creativity. Roll

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Ayuren Aakiwa
Intangible.
#29 - 2012-01-16 12:39:08 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Ayuren Aakiwa wrote:
ITT: OP spends all his money on plex, doesn't get into csm.



Moongoo and alliance embezzlement... Jeeze what a waste of time. Roll


Good luck though
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-01-16 12:44:48 UTC
No one said it wasn't. Some people just need a whole lot more then others to feel good about themselves, ya know?

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2012-01-16 13:43:58 UTC
I'm impressed by OP's ability to combine bitterness, envy, delusions and plain clueless stupidity in a single boring and bad post.

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Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-01-16 13:49:09 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:

I have never made it to a Fanfest, but have always wondered why some players don't get their butts kicked at Fanfest.
And please don't say "its only a game".

When people have had enough booze, and some says "Goons rock", or "I am Darius III", surely some drunk in the bar stands up and says "I hate Goons", and takes a swing.

Or is it because the griefers keep a low profile during Fanfest.


Maybe it's because people who go are sensible enough not to be deported from Iceland for 'assault' charges over a video game.

Have you considered anger management therapy?
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-01-16 14:28:11 UTC
Roime wrote:
I'm impressed by OP's ability to combine bitterness, envy, delusions and plain clueless stupidity in a single boring and bad post.




I have more alt likes then you, that means I am better then you.

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-01-16 14:44:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Scatim Helicon
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I have never made it to a Fanfest, but have always wondered why some players don't get their butts kicked at Fanfest.
And please don't say "its only a game".

When people have had enough booze, and some says "Goons rock", or "I am Darius III", surely some drunk in the bar stands up and says "I hate Goons", and takes a swing.

Or is it because the griefers keep a low profile during Fanfest.


The thing about internet tough guys is that they're only tough guys when they're on the internet.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Tore Vest
#35 - 2012-01-16 15:03:09 UTC
If you want to win EVE...
You go for CSM..
There you can troll CCP to do crazy nerfs thats helps you to win Bear

Remove the CSM now

No troll.

Valei Khurelem
#36 - 2012-01-16 15:05:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
CSM are pretty much like the lobbying parties of western governments, they overturn laws that don't help them and force ones through that do while the rest of us suffer.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#37 - 2012-01-16 15:09:27 UTC
CCP should add tinfoil hats to the NeX store

Are you guys really serious?

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Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-01-16 15:11:44 UTC
Rory Orlenard wrote:
I get the point..just remember at CSM voting time to help spread the word. I'll be building a list of links with quotes for the present CSM members who made outrageous claims it was "thier hard work and skills" that brought about Hilmars refocusing on spaceships.
While making those claims the pilots who unsubbed and even biomassed got no mention.
Perhaps you can do something too.


You might be taken seriously if you'd post from your main.
Zagam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-01-16 15:17:27 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
It takes a great deal of responsibility I imagine, traveling to Iceland and all of that. But I suspect the preparation in game must be far more difficult then simply scoring a ticket and getting on a airplane. Think about all of the extra accounts that you have to make to exploit the vote? There is also that buddy program thing... and not to mention kestrels filled with dozens of plexes.



I am sitting on a massive wad of ISK in my corporation. I acquired this ISK from alliance wide taxes and mining moongoo in nullsec for a couple of years. I am planning on liquidating my isk and buying cosmic buttloads of plexes to activate a veritable army of accounts with my wealth and open access to alliance resources.



But... I am still not sure if I actually want to be a CSM. Ugh
Can I get some guidance from anyone?





I admit that there is a certain appeal in standing on the shoulders of the player base and taking credit for everything people worked towards collectively. "Eternum the champion of CCP" has a nice ring to it. But I just don't know if I want to dedicate THAT much of my life to a freakin video game, ya know? I figured that I would get some feedback from the rest of the community. Any input that you may have would be appreciated. Thx!


You need lots of time. I mean lots. EVE has to be something you're very serious about. Also, remember you're going to be a CSM for a year. If you can't dedicate yourself to a game for a year... CSM isn't for you. I considered running for CSM this upcoming cycle, but elected not to due to my school schedule (I'm in nursing school).

Also, the reason why nullsec tends to have the most representation is because we have the most time and dedication to do so. Nullsec players have a LOT more invested in the game. Its harder to leave. Hisec players are much more casual, fragmented, and don't have the deep ties that nullsec players do. (You can theoretically solo all the time in Hisec. If you solo in nullsec, you die pretty quickly). In nullsec, community = life. So the bonds are tighter, issues are more well known, and altruism is actually more present. (I've seen more ppl screwed in Hisec than I ever have in nullsec)

Internet spaceships is srs bizness.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-01-16 16:00:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyris Nairn
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hello, Eternum Praetorian. Did you know that I will be running for CSM this cycle? I came to that decision when I realized that there are quite a lot of people, within and without my coalition, who like me; so, I figured a great thing to do for them in return for all of their likes here on the forums would be for me to go to Iceland and represent them.




Well then Lyris, I guess we will see if your army of alt accounts and Alt liking accounts can defeat mine. May the greater exploitative legion emerge as the victor! Of course you have risen by a factor of 44 likes in roughly 8 hours, even though you have posted far less times then that....



I guess things for my alt legions are not looking so good atm, when compared to yours SadSadSad

I made at least a hundred posts over the past weekend. Why is it such a hard thing for you to believe that 44 of them received at least one "like," from someone other than myself, during the past eight hours that I've been sleeping?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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