Warfare & Tactics

erhh...just ask ceo if he doesn't know what he's doing you are probably going to get killed also
7 people will take a long time...

Unless you're going to build a dread/carrier in system don't even bother trying to kill the large pos. Just treat the place like you own it and slowly pod them all out of the hole.

If you, or the locals, want to settle this, feed free to drop by BITIN public channel and ask for a quote ;)

There is always that.

Why don't you check the corp's killboard and see what ships they're capable of flying and what they have killed / lost in the wormhole you are in?

Incapping guns doesn't take long and will definitely provoke them into fighting or leaving, i'd do this.
But then again, I'd probably still blow the POS up with 7 / 8 people.

Large jamming POS requires lots of people, or sieged dread or whatever, point is you'd need to be fairly serious to take it out, it's not worth doing it on a whim.

Given that they only have small arty and cruise missile arrays in a C3, i'd assume they're not too clued up so I wouldn't worry.
What I would worry about is their capital capacity and average number of pilots on a kill.


In conclusion, just go for it and quit being a coward!
What have you got to lose? A spaceship? Oh noes.

From the top:
Talked to my ceo, and we are completely new to too many things and eve. in his opinion, we need to start working on the things we don't know and don't practice. I agree with this.

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So... we aren't building caps yet (won't be for at least 2 months), but we do want to eliminate the presence of the other corp. We don't agree that it is a waste of time to bash a PoS with BS vessels, but this is purely because there are mixed scenarios where people do find it useful to bash a PoS with BS class vessels.

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"Yeah, the cruise batteries are laughable. It's just as laughable as you not communicating to your CEO as to what his strategy is and still blindly following him in ."

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I'm not blindly following him, we are all RL friends, and I left out some information because I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to let loose information such as the withheld amount. Attrition sounds like something we should practice, but right now, we are faced with the chance that they might be setting up a fight against us, while we clear their wh daily. Have yet to see any activity, but the cloaky aspect makes it hard to tell.

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What is BITIN Public?

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Our CEO understands that PoS bashing without a dread is tedious, his defense for this, building a dread would be ill-advised... seeing as it cannot leave the WH. We want them gone. We don't want to punk out. We would be joyous of a fight. The only terms of fighting we would not be on equal terms is to fight on their tower. We are also RL friends (our entire corp), thusly, we are likely to follow through, just for the sake of the game.

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Thanks Trinkets Friend, I enjoy a nudge towards actual combat :)

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Their KB is about as bad as ours. Their KB is older than ours. they field T3's without faction mods (which i personally find a waste), and Battlecruisers.
They suposedly have no capital capacity.

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No known associates. no alliance.
And we plan to PvP very much the same amount as we PvE. 2 days in the WH and we've managed to consume all of their existing sigs, put up better defenses, rescout them to the full extent necessary, etc. The WH has a static High, so we will be keeping an alt on the static, and watching the place like hawks, something shimmers wrong and we are out.

Which reminds me, what do you guys think?

Updated Info:

Their Pos, 4 sides of the PoS are set up with 6 Small arty guns. 3 onlined, 3 anchored. The bottoms side is loaded with 10+ onlined white noise arrays. The top side has half onlined half anchored mix of arrays with 2 cruise missile batteries. The inside is set up for T3 production. Not a peep from these guys in 4 days now.

I have never toyed with the details, but my understanding (from EveHQ) is that the ECM arrays have a 200km optimal with a 100km falloff, and their sensor strength is 200. Their jam strength is 15/15/15/45, so you can boost to resist jamming, especially beyond the optimal and for non-racial, but it will gimp your fit quite a bit if you do get ambushed. You will need to take out the ECM before you do much of anything else. It depends on your skills and the ECM, but it would appear that setting up to snipe with the appropriate type ship (one least susceptible to their ECM) would be a start, while taking out the ECM that is the most annoying.

You will also have to wait and see what their response is - they may jump online and start to anchor more arrays and/or repair arrays by poking in/out of the shields.

It takes almost no skills/man power to put up a POS that will be very difficult to take down without a LOT of skills and man power. It is just weighted against the attacker and towards the defender.

That said, if you want to intimidate them out (and being a two year corp, they SHOULD know better, but....), make sure you put up at least one x-lg array and a component array (both online) to make it look like you are building caps. Also, you probably want to inflate your membership a little with every alt you can get (or new trial accts, I suppose). Don't talk to them too much - they will then know you are bluffing them, most likely. Give your demands, and then (appear to) start building your dreads. They will either ignore you, buff their defenses, or leave. You have to decide what to do if they do 1 or 2.

Eh, industrialist/PvE types tend to be anal retentive about such things. We long ago built up (converted, actually) a couple months supply of fuel to fuel blocks in all our w-space stations and moved a researched fuel block BPO in, as well. I would not be surprised if most w-sapce POS have already done this. You can check to see if they have a component array or ammunition array, I think those are the only two that can build fuel blocks.

Get the f*ck out of my wormhole you pykies.