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What did you chose and why?

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Jenshae Chiroptera
#1 - 2012-01-15 23:31:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Nota Bene: I know this topic comes up frequently. I am interested in hearing considered opinions on why people make the choices that they do in EVE.

Knee jerks - jerk off somewhere else please. (6) Roll



Even in that video, they talk about it, "... they have come to trust you. Now it is time to make a choice; you can keep building power or you can take your revenge ..."

There was much wasted life, people were killed, villages put to the torch, women and children weren't spared. However, gradually, people started talking about honour, great deeds, respect and valiant fighting. Armies started drawing up into formations and facing each other instead of burning everything down in the night. They fought with their lives.
-> So, why then - when we have so much freedom, when we have nothing real to lose, do so many of us chose to be cowardly, outnumber, destroy, rob, leech off others as pirate parasites and just be as underhanded as possible?

Chat Extract wrote:
"Yeah, children like games they can cheat at, while adults want something challenging and even handed "
"Not true. Mature people want something challenging or even handed. A lot of people just want to escape the rigours of real life and act immaturely. After all 'win at any cost' is immature, as is being over competitive."
"It is not winning if you have to change who you are."
"Indeed, it's why it's immature."


I chose to fight in small gangs or fleets and try to fight against the same.

What have you chosen and why?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2012-01-16 00:13:56 UTC
I will choose freewill!

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-01-16 00:31:51 UTC
I've chosen not to take this game at all seriously and to laugh at and upset those who do take it too seriously.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2012-01-16 00:36:34 UTC
Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic, thank you.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

Brock Nelson
#5 - 2012-01-16 00:38:03 UTC
I do it because my wallet isn't fat enough

Signature removed, CCP Phantom

Jenshae Chiroptera
#6 - 2012-01-16 00:49:58 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
... and upset those ...


What does your griefing accomplish? Why do you feel this need to target a group of people? Smile

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-01-16 01:00:53 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
What does your griefing accomplish? Why do you feel this need to target a group of people? Smile

Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game Roll
Ai Shun
#8 - 2012-01-16 01:06:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ai Shun
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game Roll


Interesting viewpoint, so I'm not sure if you're trolling or if you are serious. Not all accomplishments in various spheres of life are treated equally. Completing a tricky piece of analysis and helping a customer, while an accomplishment is one thing. Doing volunteer work in Africa and helping underdeveloped nations progress is another. Is one any less of an accomplishment than the other because they are accomplished in different areas?

Well, yes they are. Does that mean the other one does not have any meaning?

Within the context of playing a video game for entertainment, how is an accomplishment here any different to playing a good round of golf and feeling proud of your accomplishment there? It is a different skillset, but just something somebody did that made them proud and happy.

Why seek to diminish that through the old "internet spaceship game" throwaway?

Edit: @Jenshae, still thinking about this.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#9 - 2012-01-16 01:07:42 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game Roll

Roll
"What does your griefing satisfy?" "What compels you to behave this way instead of doing something else?"

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-16 01:34:47 UTC
It seems to me that she was ganked or her corp got heisted at one point and she's...I dunno. This is the weirdest thread i've come aross. What?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#11 - 2012-01-16 02:08:22 UTC
Tiberius Sunstealer wrote:
It seems to me that she was ganked or her corp got heisted at one point and she's...I dunno. This is the weirdest thread i've come aross. What?


I was ganked once, maybe twice. Not sure. I was in an Iteron, came into a worm hole and a thrasher was waiting on the other side. I waited a bit, then moved toward the exit and tried to jump out again. Had a change session error but managed to save my pod. Ship was empty and I didn't care enough to even petition it. Smile
` Actually, it is the reverse. I am seeing quite a few people I know going out and ganking. Personally, shooting something that can't shoot back or waiting at a gate is so similar to mining that I would rather do that.
` I wanted to see other peoples' reasons and hear about their play styles.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-01-16 03:18:15 UTC
Though I do a number of things in EVE, what I like most is sneaking into "dangerous" places and doing whatever without getting killed. Doesn't particularly matter how profitable it is isk-wise, though it's more fun when you make it back home with a cargohold full of treasure.

Not sure I could even say why I like to play this game the way I do. I simply enjoy exploring. The other things I do in EVE, I do out of boredom when I don't have a decent amount of time for an extended journey - and to keep myself in isk in case I get my ship blown up. I certainly couldn't say what motivates the more aggressive, pvp-minded folk in this game.

Maybe they have a crappy job or a nagging wife and want to take out their frustrations in a safe environment? Maybe they just take pride in watching their kill board get bigger? I don't know, but without them this game would be really really boring.

All the gankers, pies, disgruntled locals, and pvp-addicts in this game make it fun, and are much more interesting and challenging than AI controlled monsters. I don't play like they do and I don't really understand them, but I'm glad they are around. :)
mkint
#13 - 2012-01-16 03:19:21 UTC
tee ell dee arr

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#14 - 2012-01-16 03:21:41 UTC
My mission is to do my best to Kill RMT leeches in EVE.

PL is actually looking like my gateway.
They don't want it, they just enjoy taking it from people who don't have the passion to hold it.

Pandemic Legion fanboi in the making here Big smile
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-01-16 03:23:51 UTC
I do it to get blocked on the forums.


Don't ask, something about calling her the champion of the debate team and a disappointed turtle. It offended her apparently delicate sensibilities, and now I can say whatever I want in her threads without her seeing it!!! Cool


P.S. someone feel free to quote this for me mwhahahah!!!!

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Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-01-16 04:51:18 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Asking about 'accomplishments' in an internet spaceship game Roll

Roll
"What does your griefing satisfy?" "What compels you to behave this way instead of doing something else?"


Schadenfreude mostly. Pleasure in the misfortune of others. Delicious drama, ridiculous loss-mails, great salty pubbie tears, spergy rants and rage. It's all good fun.

If you can't laugh at this terrible game I don't know how you're supposed to get any enjoyment out of it. It is so terrible.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#17 - 2012-01-16 05:07:56 UTC
To crush your enemies , see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women!

I have more space likes than you. 

Dessau
The Scope
#18 - 2012-01-16 07:02:27 UTC
I chose to log in only to set my skill queue for the first 6M SP. Since I knew no one who played EVE, I then chose to grind standings while I slowly built up a bankroll. Then I chose to stop paying when the game was headed in a direction in which I had no interest. After a few months, things changed, and I chose to return and roam nullsec in cheapfit frigates looking for 1v1s.

I still have no comrades in game, so this sort of solo vagabondery is how I choose to play. I view it as no more or less valid a use of CCPs product than any other: RP, griefing, Sovspace Blobbin', forum warrioring, material acquisition [both mining and piracy], hell if CCP doesn't care about RMT then I guess that counts, too.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#19 - 2012-01-16 12:54:43 UTC
Dessau wrote:
...I still have no comrades in game, so ...

Most corporations and alliances want more players, especially experienced ones with skill points. You can just find out about some then talk to the recruiter / diplomat and join.
Hainnz wrote:
Though I do a number of things ... Smile


Good post. Yeah, would be less interesting if there was no one to feel contempt toward or villainize. However, it is interesting to still see their individual differences, reason and such. It is a vast spectrum of choices in this game.

Example, "Yeah, I gate camp but only to protect our area." "I only shoot reds that come to us, I never go out looking for a fight or camping a system that we don't own."

Little idiosyncrasies, quirks and perspectives. Blink

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-01-16 13:04:50 UTC
why does this subject come and go every six months or so?

I has all the eve inactivity

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