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Today we kill the Sansha mothership(s)

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Tore Vest
#41 - 2012-01-15 11:22:22 UTC
CCP....
Remove the CSM now...

You can see what kind of ppl they are now.... cant you ? Bear

No troll.
TheRightPrice
Solis Nauibus
#42 - 2012-01-15 11:44:26 UTC
G0hme wrote:
TheRightPrice wrote:
I don't really understand why you want to do all of this? I have just come back to the game and have been doing a few incursions for the past few weeks and found it actually quite enjoyable.

It doesn't make sense to do this and potentially lose Eve players because of it? For many of us PVE is more practical than PVP due to time and rl situations. So people get railroaded back to lvl 4 missions and such? Get bored fast and then cancel subs?

I'd expect more from a CSM.


How about losing potential Eve players from disallowing this? Isnt that the same? Adapt and overcome. Else go cry in a corner and cancel your sub, bear.



I didnt' say anything about 'disallowing' this. I'm just interested in to why said people yourself oviously included want to stop PVE activities in general? Why do you want less Eve players, it makes no sense?

It makes no real massive difference to me, but it just takes away some of the content of eve. You wont stop the hardcore incursion runners, so people who are more casual and just want to try different things won't have the opportunity.

What is your gripe with the Incursion runners? Is it simply they make more isk than you do? Seriously enlighten me.
CeneUJiti
Doomheim
#43 - 2012-01-15 11:52:42 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
CeneUJiti wrote:
Well congratulations faggots. Now I'll be back PVPing in T1 and meta 1 fit Rifters and Trashers and you can complain about crap fits and crap loo again.

Why the frak do you think people run Incursions? What do they need that isk for? To sit on it? Hell no. To turn it into killmails.

Go on feed on my tears. But neither I nor anyone else will come to do incs in lowsec or become a 00 drone to be allowed access to your precious anoms (that also pump magatons of raw isk into economy; but never mind them, stop incursions)


LOOOL if your doing incursions and only affordig t1 rifters and thrashers you either; fail at pvp and need a change in profession or fail at incursions and need a change in profession. Overall, you need a change in profession Lol



How much is properly fit Rifter? 7 to 10 mill? How much is the Trasher? 12-17Mill? And they both win or die in 30 seconds and you can burn trough a dozen of them in a evening flying around looking for fights. Idea was to minimize ISK making time and maximize PVP time.
Degarion Soth
Ambivalent Inc
Coney Island Ski Club
#44 - 2012-01-15 12:17:12 UTC
Darius III wrote:
I have talked to some of the people organizing the fleets to kill the Sansha motherships and stop the farming. It is my conclusion that these gentlemen are in fact legitimate. We had a few conferences and although I can't be certain, my best information and instincts tell me that this is going to be a real op with high chance of success. That being said, I would advise those participating to leave their officer fitted ships at home and fly conventional BS/T3.


I ask all available pilots to lend a hand and lets see what we can do. Get your armor BS/T3 out and join me in helping kill the moms. I will be rolling logi myself (under an alt OFC). Hit me up in game (Darius iii) and I will try to help out and/or answer any questions. We will be in Amarr space initially and as noted above, in armor ships. No war decced pilots unless you come as a group, no aggroed people will get reps and no nonsense please.

C+P Please come out and help-this is not only a great thing to do, it also griefs the worst bears in game, pays some ISK also it is expected to generate buckets of high quality disease fighting tears. Together we can get this done.

See you at 18:00 ETZ for pre-formup. Get in C+P ingame channel. Best of luck brothers-today we ride together



Oh look it appears as though Darius III cant handle the fact his alliance has failed, that he made himself look like a douche for attempting to steal his alliances assets then changed his mind because it wouldn't help him be popular and now he is trying to say "hey look at me again".

Nice to see the CSM's purpose has changed from representing the player base as a whole to promoting a small selection of griefers from a failed alliance, clearly the CSM has outlived its purpose or this douche should be removed.

and after this post there shall be lots of trolling by small children and the non-shiny butthurt pubbies......... I await your responses so I can PMSL at you even more!
CeneUJiti
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-01-15 12:23:05 UTC
CSM will always represent 00 sov alliances due to the sheer numbers; and trolls/epic-scale-tear-farmers due to other trolls voting for them for the lulz.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#46 - 2012-01-15 13:19:14 UTC
Degarion Soth wrote:


and after this post there shall be lots of trolling by small children and the non-shiny butthurt pubbies......... I await your responses so I can PMSL at you even more!



Most of what you said is ****, except for this.


Actually, what I quoted is **** too but I feel it bears pointing out: YOU ARE A PUBBIE. You are not a member of Goonswarm. If anything, you are a pubbie pet of the Goons. I think it's probably quite a good idea to get your terminology straight before you start bandying big words around

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Hoxothul
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2012-01-15 13:57:22 UTC
TheRightPrice wrote:
G0hme wrote:
TheRightPrice wrote:
I don't really understand why you want to do all of this? I have just come back to the game and have been doing a few incursions for the past few weeks and found it actually quite enjoyable.

It doesn't make sense to do this and potentially lose Eve players because of it? For many of us PVE is more practical than PVP due to time and rl situations. So people get railroaded back to lvl 4 missions and such? Get bored fast and then cancel subs?

I'd expect more from a CSM.


How about losing potential Eve players from disallowing this? Isnt that the same? Adapt and overcome. Else go cry in a corner and cancel your sub, bear.



I didnt' say anything about 'disallowing' this. I'm just interested in to why said people yourself oviously included want to stop PVE activities in general? Why do you want less Eve players, it makes no sense?

It makes no real massive difference to me, but it just takes away some of the content of eve. You wont stop the hardcore incursion runners, so people who are more casual and just want to try different things won't have the opportunity.

What is your gripe with the Incursion runners? Is it simply they make more isk than you do? Seriously enlighten me.






The problem is not PvE in itself, or Incursions either, it's risk free high sec incursions that generates more isk/hour then 0.0 sanctum running or wormhole site running does.
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-01-15 14:21:09 UTC
Oh wow

This thread turned out much better than expected
CeneUJiti
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-01-15 14:45:59 UTC  |  Edited by: CeneUJiti
Hoxothul wrote:

The problem is not PvE in itself, or Incursions either, it's risk free high sec incursions that generates more isk/hour then 0.0 sanctum running or wormhole site running does.


I'm sorry but that is just no true. At peak efficiency a "shiny" fleet will be doing 120 maybe 140m/hr. Add in occasional breaks and reforming when people leave fleet and you end with 120m actually being close to ceiling of what best fleets can make.

C5s are what? 500M/hr?

Upgraded sanctums should be around 200m/hr? Without counting eventual faction spawns and drops.
Grarr Dexx
Blue Canary
Watch This
#50 - 2012-01-15 14:55:47 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
Hoxothul wrote:

The problem is not PvE in itself, or Incursions either, it's risk free high sec incursions that generates more isk/hour then 0.0 sanctum running or wormhole site running does.


I'm sorry but that is just no true. At peak efficiency a "shiny" fleet will be doing 120 maybe 140m/hr. Add in occasional breaks and reforming when people leave fleet and you end with 120m actually being close to ceiling of what best fleets can make.

C5s are what? 500M/hr?

Upgraded sanctums should be around 200m/hr? Without counting eventual faction spawns and drops.


Upgraded sanctums aren't even 200m with a Titan, where the **** are you getting these numbers from? Also faction never spawns in Sanctums.
Cardval Simalia
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-01-15 15:01:57 UTC
If fleets only make 100m/ph why are they paying 10bn per day to stop Darius and co killing the Mothership? How many fleets run in each system?
Heribeck Weathers
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-01-15 15:07:24 UTC
I endorse this product and / or service
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#53 - 2012-01-15 15:10:56 UTC
Wild thread, best thread.

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

Proud co-admin of frugu.net, a French fansite about EVE !
mirel yirrin
Ore Mongers
#54 - 2012-01-15 15:14:28 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:


...You can see what kind of ppl they are now.... cant you ?



What, people who play the game as it was designed and entirely within its rules in order to financially attack people who we disagree with? How was what we did any different to capturing tech moons or ganking mission runners?

Your tears are delicious, do keep them coming. I am training for T2 Buckets but it will take time so please form an orderly queue!

Darius III for CSM! Or your money back!
mirel yirrin
Ore Mongers
#55 - 2012-01-15 15:15:18 UTC
Cardval Simalia wrote:
If fleets only make 100m/ph why are they paying 10bn per day to stop Darius and co killing the Mothership? How many fleets run in each system?


I personally have been paid over 25bn isk already - where are you getting your figures from because they are obviously wrong

Darius III for CSM! Or your money back!
CeneUJiti
Doomheim
#56 - 2012-01-15 15:16:32 UTC
I didn't say 100m, I said 120 to 140. Its 20 to 40 % difference then number in your reply . Its quite a difference. System with 100 was crowded (in normal circumstances). So with off gird booster that would be 7-8 fleets.

Second. 10Bn per day is a C&P forum rumor and nothing else. Or its somewhere above my level; I cant be 100% confident.

And sorry but numbers close to 200m in a non cap for fully upgraded -1 anoms is what I've heard from too many sources to just throw away.
Hoxothul
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-01-15 15:19:37 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
I didn't say 100m, I said 120 to 140. Its 20 to 40 % difference then number in your reply . Its quite a difference. System with 100 was crowded (in normal circumstances). So with off gird booster that would be 7-8 fleets.

Second. 10Bn per day is a C&P forum rumor and nothing else. Or its somewhere above my level; I cant be 100% confident.

And sorry but numbers close to 200m in a non cap for fully upgraded -1 anoms is what I've heard from too many sources to just throw away.



Your sources are horrible wrong, non cap solo you are getting 60 to 100M an hour at best. And it's still not risk free.

as for 500M/hr running C5 sites, where on earth have you gotten those ridiculous numbers?
mirel yirrin
Ore Mongers
#58 - 2012-01-15 15:21:35 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
I didn't say 100m, I said 120 to 140. Its 20 to 40 % difference then number in your reply . Its quite a difference. System with 100 was crowded (in normal circumstances). So with off gird booster that would be 7-8 fleets.

Second. 10Bn per day is a C&P forum rumor and nothing else. Or its somewhere above my level; I cant be 100% confident.

And sorry but numbers close to 200m in a non cap for fully upgraded -1 anoms is what I've heard from too many sources to just throw away.


You are a surprisingly ill-informed person to be suggesting that 10Bn a dail is a mere rumor, Sir.

Darius III for CSM! Or your money back!
Cardval Simalia
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-01-15 16:18:21 UTC
CeneUJiti wrote:
I didn't say 100m, I said 120 to 140. Its 20 to 40 % difference then number in your reply . Its quite a difference. System with 100 was crowded (in normal circumstances). So with off gird booster that would be 7-8 fleets.

Second. 10Bn per day is a C&P forum rumor and nothing else. Or its somewhere above my level; I cant be 100% confident.

And sorry but numbers close to 200m in a non cap for fully upgraded -1 anoms is what I've heard from too many sources to just throw away.


Well my main was paid 300Million for being in the mother killer fleet plus thenormal reward for killing rats. All loses were reimbursed more than the loss. Fleet took some minor losses but hey we're new to this.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#60 - 2012-01-15 16:27:22 UTC
Either I'm really drunk or you asses are using WAY too much math in here. You should be getting back to the issue at hand: finding fun new ways to play the game for your entertainment. Sandbox and all that.

CAPTAIN ALCOHOLIC, AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!