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Bittersweet, or just plain stank?
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Vyl Vit
#1 - 2012-01-14 08:52:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
Anybody notice a kind of mean-spiritedness has descended upon this community? I don't know, but I seem to recall the great weight of posts being more "family" than contention. The name calling. The innuendo, and flat out accusations...sure there were a few, but in the main it was more cooperate and espirit de corps.

Has there been a population turnover over the years and I just noticed? In the south we characterize this sort of speech as "ugly." It's people being ugly. I don't mean "can't we all get along?" Sure we can't, or we wouldn't be shooting at each other. But, here? In this august venue of great tradition, can't we elevate things a bit?

I'd like to call on everyone to just check to see if you might can rephrase something you're about to say so as not to make it a projectile. We all don't have to agree, but we can "disagree without being disagreeable." I swear. Reading this forum has my ulcer acting up and I don't even HAVE an ulcer.

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

Talk about the good old days? Before we beg the devs to roll the game back seven years, how's about us bringing back to mind when we were all in this thing together. It's our combined EFFORT$ that keep it rolling. For that we still have this game.

Play nice. Don't poo where you sleep.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Fix Lag
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-14 08:55:23 UTC
No.

CCP mostly sucks at their job, but Veritas is a pretty cool dude.
Kehro Urgus
Dark Nebula Academy
O X I D E
#3 - 2012-01-14 08:55:23 UTC
GTFO!!!Evil

Yeeee! 
Vyl Vit
#4 - 2012-01-14 08:56:15 UTC
Don' make meh beg.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Lord Mandelor
Oruze Cruise
White Stag Exit Bag
#5 - 2012-01-14 09:04:19 UTC
Since I am also from the south, I have a saying you might find relevant.
Don't **** into an electric fan to try and cool down, you just end up miserable and warmer than before.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2012-01-14 09:10:10 UTC
I find that the forums are full of nice helpful people if you approach them in a normal, respectful way.

If someone wades in yelling
"I HAVE THE BEST IDEA AND NOBODY'S THOUGHT OF IT BEFORE" or "I GOT SCAMMED, OMG BAN THE EBIL PEOPLE" or asks a question that shows that they don't respect our time enough to make the slightest effort to research the answer on their own, that naturally irks some of us forum denizens. So, we get a bit mouthy.


Besides. Trolling is not only a art, it's an fun art.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Vyl Vit
#7 - 2012-01-14 09:12:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
RubyPorto wrote:
....Besides. Trolling is not only a art, it's an fun art.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. Trolling is an artform and so is being a smartass. There's a thin line between being a smartass and being an a$$hole though...if you get my drift...well...maybe I should rethink that one.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
W1rlW1nd
WirlWind
#8 - 2012-01-14 09:13:25 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
... The name calling. The innuendo, and flat out accusations...


It was like this from release over 8 years ago, and I haven't noticed any real variation from that since.

I find it rather comforting actually, imo EVE forums have been very consistent over the years. When you come back after taking a break, it's like coming home to your possibly disfunctional family... yet still familyLol
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#9 - 2012-01-14 09:22:36 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
....Besides. Trolling is not only a art, it's an fun art.

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. Trolling is an artform and so is being a smartass. There's a thin line between being a smartass and being an a$$hole though...if you get my drift...well...maybe I should rethink that one.


There is a line. Sometimes, it's a lot of fun to look at that line, say "Fuck it" and leave it in your dust, while you go off into the land of sweet smelling asshole.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
J Kunjeh
#10 - 2012-01-14 09:32:16 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Anybody notice a kind of mean-spiritedness has descended upon this community?


You must be new here....

"The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5) 
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#11 - 2012-01-14 09:33:38 UTC
Go (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) do yourself (ingame, of course), for daring to tell me how I may comport myself on these forums.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Vyl Vit
#12 - 2012-01-14 09:53:02 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Go (and I mean this in the nicest way possible) do yourself (ingame, of course), for daring to tell me how I may comport myself on these forums.

Thanks for your unsolicited advice. You may stick it where such things as it belong.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2012-01-14 10:03:24 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:

Thanks for your unsolicited advice. You may stick it where such things as it belong.


Vyl Vit wrote:


Play nice. Don't poo where you sleep.



Pots and Kettles, eh Vyl?

There's a well known defect in the human psyche. We remember the good parts of the past and forget the bad parts, while focusing on the bad parts of the present. I keep meaning to file a bug report, but the hold times to get an operator on a prayer are just hellish.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Valei Khurelem
#14 - 2012-01-14 11:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Valei Khurelem
This is what happens when you actively set out to encourage people to behave like twats, there will always be a few morons who take it too far and think it's acceptable to do it everywhere, now because everyone else hardly plays the game or just doesn't bother taking part in the community it seems like there are tons of them.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Vyl Vit
#15 - 2012-01-14 12:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
RubyPorto wrote:
There's a well known defect in the human psyche. We remember the good parts of the past and forget the bad parts, while focusing on the bad parts of the present...

Uh...you wanna run that by me again? I think I got lost with the qualitative valuations.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#16 - 2012-01-14 13:15:15 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
There's a well known defect in the human psyche. We remember the good parts of the past and forget the bad parts, while focusing on the bad parts of the present...

Uh...you wanna run that by me again? I think I got lost with the qualitative valuations.


The old guy who says "Back in my day, a cup of coffee was a nickel" doesn't (in that moment) remember that he made a dime an hour at the time.

We forget the shitty part of our past, and that's why "The Good Ol' Days" is such a cliche.

Read: Wiki

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-01-14 13:18:16 UTC
Yes actually, I try not to be like that though
5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!  If You Like My Sig, Like Me!   Remember EVE is EVErything!
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#18 - 2012-01-14 13:57:43 UTC
Vyl Vit wrote:
Anybody notice a kind of mean-spiritedness has descended upon this community? I don't know, but I seem to recall the great weight of posts being more "family" than contention. The name calling. The innuendo, and flat out accusations...sure there were a few, but in the main it was more cooperate and espirit de corps.

Has there been a population turnover over the years and I just noticed? In the south we characterize this sort of speech as "ugly." It's people being ugly. I don't mean "can't we all get along?" Sure we can't, or we wouldn't be shooting at each other. But, here? In this august venue of great tradition, can't we elevate things a bit?

I'd like to call on everyone to just check to see if you might can rephrase something you're about to say so as not to make it a projectile. We all don't have to agree, but we can "disagree without being disagreeable." I swear. Reading this forum has my ulcer acting up and I don't even HAVE an ulcer.

It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

Talk about the good old days? Before we beg the devs to roll the game back seven years, how's about us bringing back to mind when we were all in this thing together. It's our combined EFFORT$ that keep it rolling. For that we still have this game.

Play nice. Don't poo where you sleep.


8=======D--== O-:

Am I doing this right?
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#19 - 2012-01-14 14:02:29 UTC
The first time I quit eve, as in sub lapsed, game time lapsed, etc I used to come to the forums and read in GD whenever I felt an itch to return, the trolloing usually was enough to kill it off again. Then about 22 months ago people were in an oddly "nice" mood and I resubbed ... but in general I find anything in GD to be ruined by feces, however if you move to any of the other sub forums, it's not too bad.
Always ... Never ... Forget to check your references.   Peace out Zulu! Hope you land well!
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#20 - 2012-01-14 14:32:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Minta Contha
I agree with the OP. I wrote a long post but the forum just ate it. Grrr.

My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying.
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